Posted on Nov 13, 2017
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The Army allows people with full sleeve tattoos, criminal history, drug/alcohol abuse problems, overweight people, and now psychotic people serve in the military. Clearly the Army isn't worried about looking professional or being professional. Numerous other Allied nations allow their service members to grow beards and have no problem with their SMs utilizing gas masks. Uniformity definitely isn't an issue either, since we have different hairstyles, uniforms, etc. What are your thoughts on this?
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PO3 D. Scott Bessinger
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When I was in the Navy I remember when beards were allowed for petty officers, but I also remember on 01/01/1985 when everyone had to be clean shaven because standards changed.
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PO3 D. Scott Bessinger
PO3 D. Scott Bessinger
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Personally, I’m not a fan of facial hair on military personnel. I think it is sloppy looking and it makes sealing a gas mask difficult.
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I understand your frustrations, which lead to what basically amounts to a vent against the system. I have seen and been responsible for soldiers who should have been turned away at the recruiter's desk for one reason or another. Overweight, couldn't pass PT to save their lives, substance abuse issues, mentally unstable in some shape, form or fashion. I've damn near seen it all. All we can do is shake our heads, keep soldiering on, be the best soldier we know how to be, and let the Army do their jobs (if they're willing to, which is an entirely different conversation to itself).
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Sgt S.P. Woodke
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BECAUSE beards are unsat - disgusting and idiotic that's Enough about that! Use your common sense.
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SFC Detachment Sergeant
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Even those of us with shaving profiles, and who have permission from our commanders must shave while oconus for safety reasons. I understand that the SMA has stated that he has no problem with facial hair, however, it isn't going to happen eventhough a portion of the naval services had full facial hair until the late 80s.
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SFC Jonathan Barker
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How about be the chain of command says so. You willingly chose to enlist or become commissioned knowing that there are standards to be upheld. Quit bitching and do your job.
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SP6 James Walker
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You should probably do a little research before posting something like this. Your intelligence is obviously in question.
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MSG Chief Executive Officer (Ceo)
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Edited 6 y ago
But my beard will inhibit the gas mask from functioning properly here in my office on post! Because we all carry gas masks everywhere we go in garrison...
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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Because (just like the baret for all Soldiers) only a few Soldiers would look good with a beard. We would be stuck with most male (or female to be PC) Soldiers looking like a bunch of shitheads!
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SGT Clinton Wike
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You’re not recommended to grow Beards because your gas mask will not seal properly on your face.
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SGT Combat Engineer
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In England you have to ask permission to get an opportunity to prove that you can grow a "full set" and if you are given the chance, you have either 4 or 6 weeks to prove that you can grow a presentable full set, if you cannot, the you have to shave, that opportunity is only for certain positions. The armed forces are not an equal opportunity employer, if you can't meet certain standards, then you cannot be in. I would love to have that as an option with the US armed forces but we broke away from Tyranny in 1776 and made our own country
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