Posted on Nov 13, 2017
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The Army allows people with full sleeve tattoos, criminal history, drug/alcohol abuse problems, overweight people, and now psychotic people serve in the military. Clearly the Army isn't worried about looking professional or being professional. Numerous other Allied nations allow their service members to grow beards and have no problem with their SMs utilizing gas masks. Uniformity definitely isn't an issue either, since we have different hairstyles, uniforms, etc. What are your thoughts on this?
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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BLUF - it is outdated - the "cant seal your mask" line is bovine fecal matter - if our allies, who have to face the same threats we do , can have neatly trimmed beards and they do not have issues utilizing a pro-mask, then a) our pro masks suck, or b) we are fed some bovine fecal matter. call a spade a spade, this rule is one of those "because I said so" rules.
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Cadet SFC Rev. David Doellinger
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I was taught that you need a tight seal on MOP gear. As a volunteer firefighter we are not supposed to have beards. I have worn my SCBA in a fire with a full beard and I was OK.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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No problem...just change your religion to Sikhism and you can wear the turbin and grow a beard. NOW BEFORE I GET HATE RESPONSES...I am not picking on Sikhs...very peaceful religion. I am picking on the Army for allowing them to wear beards an turbins which makes them anything but uniform...it is called a uniform for a reason!!!
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MAJ Aviation Combined Arms Operations
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Antiquated perception of professionalism, plain and simple. To argue otherwise is intelligently dishonest. Change needs to come. Shaving cost Soldiers hundreds of dollars a does nothing to improve any significant area of being a “Soldier”
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Sir, When did discipline stop being a significant area of being a Soldier?
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SGT Dusty Roth
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You absolutely CAN grow a beard. As long as it remains beneath the surface of your skin.
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SGT Jubal Sims
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So let’s look at this from another perspective: with the active targeting by several groups abroad or here at home, the “typical” military appearance has, in my opinion, become a force protection issue. High & tights and clean shaven faces immediately expose your military affiliation. I’ve spent the vast majority of my career with Special Forces who routinely have beards etc and I can tell you they are by far the most professional people I have ever worked with. I get the whole professional appearance thing, but a lot of times we overlook someone’s ability to soldier in favor of focusing on the fact that their mustache extends 1/32” past the corner of the mouth, or that their bun isn’t in the proper position etc.
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PO1 Aviation Structural Mechanic (Safety Equipment)
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To all those that say facial hair is unprofessional, would you consider a member with a no shaving profile as looking unprofessional?

If we allow it for medical reasons, which means no trimming or line up, then why not allow members to grow them and keep them well maintained?

I think the Australians/Canadians have it right (can’t remeber which country as it was RimPac) they allow their members to grow facial hair for a week, and if the Sgt. thinks it looks good in uniform then that member is allowed to grow it while keeping it in standards. That would prevent what most of the “frozen middle” are afraid of, Joe Dirt beards.
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CW4 Bernie Busby
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Protective mask seal.
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CW4 Craig Urban
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I guess you want to look like James Harden
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
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Edited 6 y ago
Because I said so. Now go finish your vegetables.
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PO3 Sergio Sandoval
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That's why I joined the NAVY!
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