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The Army allows people with full sleeve tattoos, criminal history, drug/alcohol abuse problems, overweight people, and now psychotic people serve in the military. Clearly the Army isn't worried about looking professional or being professional. Numerous other Allied nations allow their service members to grow beards and have no problem with their SMs utilizing gas masks. Uniformity definitely isn't an issue either, since we have different hairstyles, uniforms, etc. What are your thoughts on this?
Edited 8 y ago
Posted 8 y ago
Responses: 666
man who ever wrote this dicked up so much that I don't feel like going in to detail but specifically the army/all us military branchrs does not allow beards for many reasons like sanitation and we are supposed to be held to a higher standard of professionalism, there are other factors but im done. I really do not see the problem with not having a beard though and any extra grooming would be such a hassal.
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As a prior (1989 - 1992) Navy recruiter, I KNOW for a fact that your statement "The Army allows people with full sleeve tattoos, criminal history, drug/alcohol abuse problems, overweight people, and now psychotic people serve in the military." is incorrect. I used to talk with other service branch recruiters and know that that is a false statement. Now, I will admit that the Army does enlist bullet catcher with lower mental groups (just joking y'all).
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Might end being more of a problem then it's worth if 2" beard can properly mask but 2.5" breaches the seal, whose gonna be the yardstick? Probably best to just let it alone. Just my 2 cent's.
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Ok spec so here is what I see wrong with this. The first thing is because you need to learn the three C's comply comply comply. Next we are the U.S. Army not to be compared to any other Armed Forces. I was working for Recruiting Command and none of what you have said is true. Read your smart book, quit listening to the E-4 mafia and start educating yourself on standards. Not knowing them will get you caught up. The uniformity thing you speak of those is really more to make all basic pvts be equally shit. No one is greater than the other. I don't dislike you as a person or soldier because I don't know you but the younger soldiers these days are soft.
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honestly the only thing you get out of having a beard is looking better. and if you’re in an environment that’s mainly men, why would you want to look better? unless of course you’re gay, because yanno new army new rules..
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I don’t think beards are far off. The standards have been slowly changing for awhile now and fewer people seem to be against it. Our SF guys allow beards in some circumstances and those are the guys who end up in charge of the most critical parts of the Military so probably in about 20 years when the next major conflict happens.
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The only legit reason is it impedes properly sealing a gas mask, other than that because silly military reasons, the navy had really loose grooming standards in the mid to late 70's in regards to beards.
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Oddly enough the navy back in the day had things called "Z-grams", one of which stated men could grow facial hair but to a certain length and well maintained. If you think I'm bullshitting, look it up.
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