Posted on May 14, 2019
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"DA PAM 670-1, 19-15 (c) states:
When worn. All AA personnel wear the insignia beginning on date of entry into the resident WO entry course; the resident WO entry course; all RC personnel wear the insignia beginning on the date of the board selection to enter WOC status. Both AA and RC WOC personnel will wear the insignia until appointed to the WO category, or eliminated from WOC status."

"NGR 600-101, 2-11 (b) states:
Once determined qualified to enter the WOES by a DA MOS Proponent and an FRB, applicants may be appointed as a WOC. Applicants appointed as WOC, to include those serving in AGR status, will remove any enlisted rank devices/chevrons from uniforms and wear the WOC collar insignia. WOC insignia will be removed and designation automatically terminated upon---"

I'm legit curious why the criteria is different for Active Duty and Reservists/NG. I've never been able to find a solid answer. Does anyone know?
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Because the guard states convene federal recognition boards that potential candidates attend. Once you pass that, your MOS switches to 09W - Warrant Officer Candidate. And then it could be a while before you get an actual WOCS school date. During that wait (and of course at the course until you graduate), you are a WOC and wear that candidate rank. On active duty you simply qualify for, get a school date, and go. It could be a bit more complicated, and lengthy, for guard candidates.
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Sir, do you mind if I ask how long the wait was for you from being selected to getting a school date, then attending WOCS?
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I got lucky. I am guard, but I only attended one drill as a "WOC" instead of wearing my E7 rank before leaving for Ft. Rucker to attend WOCS.
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Once selected in the NG it might be months before they get a school date.
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SSG Phil Miller
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It's not rank they are wearing. it's insignia that says, "I am a student."
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CW2 (Join to see) - Its not a rank, so not sure why that disappoints you.
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It was in jest, I'm just a little disappointed the reason wasn't more complicated than I made it out to be.
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CW2 (Join to see) - I would much rather wear my E7 rank than that "WOC" faux rank.
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