Posted on Feb 29, 2016
Why do so many infantrymen say they don't like to wear their CIB because it is a free award (I earned mine in Logar so I am proud of it)?
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You wear that CIB with pride, and keep your DD214 handy for anyone who doubts it. If you were an infantryman serving in an infantry unit in combat your deserve it. I would have loved to have earned one. I could have easily cut orders awarding myself inasmuch as I was Chief of Awards and Decorations for the 9th Infantry Division for a time in Vietnam. Yep, could've gotten away with it easily. Many begged me for one. Some senior officers tried to strong arm me into issuing one to them or a friend. My refusal is part of the story of why I was RIF'd at the first opportunity. Another infantry division in Vietnam wasn't as careful and gave them away like condoms at a whore house. They were caught and had to rescind every order. That made me smile.
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SGT Richard H.
SFC Dennis Pettitt - Unless someone is throwing these awards out there in a manner NOT in keeping with regulation "been there, done that" means you've been shot at or taken human life in this case. Personally I don't know whether that just doesn't mean anything to you or you're just butthurt that there's no Combat Cav Scout badge, but I've both been shot at and taken human life while serving as an Infantryman and wear my CIB with the same pride that I carry in knowing that I served my country with honor, pride, and dignity.
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PV2 Donald Dean
SGT Richard H. - I was in OSUIT at Benning. It might have been in the AIT of training and it has 30 years this months since I was in Basic Training.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_Infantryman_Badge
I was stationed at Fort Ord in the 7th ID (Second to last rotation) before it closed.
Did most of that stuff back then before GPS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expert_Infantryman_Badge
I was stationed at Fort Ord in the 7th ID (Second to last rotation) before it closed.
Did most of that stuff back then before GPS.
Expert Infantryman Badge - Wikipedia
The Expert Infantryman Badge, or EIB, is a special skills badge of the United States Army. Although similar in name and appearance to the Combat Infantryman Badge (CIB), it is a completely different award. The CIB is awarded to infantrymen for participation in ground combat while the EIB is presented for completion of a course of testing designed to demonstrate proficiency in infantry skills.[2]
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SN Mike Duffy
I was in the Navy in the '80s. Had a couple of old cross dressers with those. One gunners mate, one fire control tech.
I know you know what I mean.
I know you know what I mean.
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SSG (Join to see) The kid brother re-upped in Germany for a tour to Nam. It was short, 26 days Los Angeles to Los Angeles. A CIB caught up with his casket while it was above ground! It was important to us two surviving brothers!
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SGT Richard H.
CSM Charles Hayden - I do as well...I was using the fact that an EIB has most likely never been awarded posthumously (as this CIB was)...it was more in response to the OP saying that some people consider a CIB to not be "earned"
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CSM Charles Hayden
SGT Richard H. Actually my brother was only ‘in-country’ for a few days, (not the 30 days, I believe the reg specifies), His trip to and from ‘Nam totaled 26 days. Los Angeles Greyhound Station to ‘Nam, to Los Angeles Train Depot.
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SGT Richard H.
CSM Charles Hayden - The only thing I'm finding about 30 days looks to be specific to Vietnam era, and to Command Sergeants Major. It's odd, but here it is:
"(ii) After December 1, 1967 for service in the Republic of Vietnam, noncommissioned officers serving as Command Sergeants Major of infantry battalions and brigades for periods of at least 30 consecutive days in a combat zone are eligible for award of the CIB provided all other requirements have been met."
"(ii) After December 1, 1967 for service in the Republic of Vietnam, noncommissioned officers serving as Command Sergeants Major of infantry battalions and brigades for periods of at least 30 consecutive days in a combat zone are eligible for award of the CIB provided all other requirements have been met."
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SSG Bill McCoy
CSM Charles Hayden - If an Infantryman is KIA on his very first day in a combat zone, he's eligible for the CIB. A cousin of mine was KIA during Tet '68 very early in his tour and received the CIB.
SSG (Join to see), you should be proud of your CIB despite the fact that many awards (Purple Hearts, Commendations w/V Defice, Bronze Stars, etc.) have been awarded outside the Regs. Those recipients KNOW they didn't earn them, but for those who did, wear them with PRIDE.
As a Navy Corpsman, it was part of my duty to report wounds deserving of Purple Hearts. I received two minor shrapnel wounds during firefights, and did NOT submit myself, UNLIKE the Senior Corpsman who was being rotated back stateside due to his third (bogus) PH. I encountered him when he was on his way back to BN HQ's and asked where he'd been hit. He had a TINY (and I mean TINY) scratch in the area of his right temple and I laughed at him! The point is, SOME awards are bogus and those that are not, can & should be worn with pride.
SSG (Join to see), you should be proud of your CIB despite the fact that many awards (Purple Hearts, Commendations w/V Defice, Bronze Stars, etc.) have been awarded outside the Regs. Those recipients KNOW they didn't earn them, but for those who did, wear them with PRIDE.
As a Navy Corpsman, it was part of my duty to report wounds deserving of Purple Hearts. I received two minor shrapnel wounds during firefights, and did NOT submit myself, UNLIKE the Senior Corpsman who was being rotated back stateside due to his third (bogus) PH. I encountered him when he was on his way back to BN HQ's and asked where he'd been hit. He had a TINY (and I mean TINY) scratch in the area of his right temple and I laughed at him! The point is, SOME awards are bogus and those that are not, can & should be worn with pride.
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CPT William Jones
You are right it isn’t free you need to be in certain job with certain mos to get it. The Arty FO right beside you on rt not the combat engineer on your left can not be awarded that badge because of their mos but all three of you did the same thing at the same time. Now you have to work to get the EIB
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SGT Richard H.
CPT William Jones - And you don't have to work for a CIB? LOL...I'll leave that one alone and just remind you that the Arty FO and the Combat engineer would be awarded a CAB in the same situation. You guys call that "equivalent", right?
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