Posted on Jun 3, 2015
Why do so many reject the religion and traditions that made our country the greatest country on Earth?
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Literacy, scientific advancement and general education are much more prevalent than they were in our ancestral past?
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SGT Anthony Rossi
THIS IS SO TRUE. THANKS
However i meet so many people that know so much yet know very little of religion. Even their own religion.
However i meet so many people that know so much yet know very little of religion. Even their own religion.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see.29 BEN FRANKLIN
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Your title and your subtext ask two entirely different questions.
"Why do so many reject the religious and traditions that made our country the greatest country on earth?" It's called progress. I would go further and say that no matter how or why a country was founded, adaptation and evolution of the state is paramount to its keeping at the forefront globally. Change is inevitable, and not always bad.
"Why are we so desirous to be follow countries our cultures that are not as powerful as ours?" Generally speaking, I don't see much evidence of this on RP. To answer generally, Americans are the only ones who can come up with good ideas.
"Why do so many reject the religious and traditions that made our country the greatest country on earth?" It's called progress. I would go further and say that no matter how or why a country was founded, adaptation and evolution of the state is paramount to its keeping at the forefront globally. Change is inevitable, and not always bad.
"Why are we so desirous to be follow countries our cultures that are not as powerful as ours?" Generally speaking, I don't see much evidence of this on RP. To answer generally, Americans are the only ones who can come up with good ideas.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Not so much said, but implied. There was a general respect for women when i was growing up, not so much these days. Marriage was always sacred and divorce was truly a last resort. People had a sense that thre was a God that watched over the affairs of men. The idea of being selfless was more prevalent, and was a concept directly connected to scripture. Th list is endless. It seems in these moderntimes people are much more concerned about themselves rather than whats best for their country as a whole. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country." The idea know seems espescily with all the well fair, "What can my country do for me?"
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SGT Anthony Rossi I don't see anything referring to the founding of our nation in that statement. Women in the vast majority of districts could not vote. No one could vote that wasn't a landowner. The bill of rights specifically states that the governments stance on religion should be one of complete silence.
That may have been your experience, which no one could say is necessarily wrong. But there are plenty of ungodly experiences in this nation, good and bad. In what way can you show that anything but distancing ourselves from religious persecution has helped our nation?
That may have been your experience, which no one could say is necessarily wrong. But there are plenty of ungodly experiences in this nation, good and bad. In what way can you show that anything but distancing ourselves from religious persecution has helped our nation?
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Kyle here is a quote from BEN FRANKLIN
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see.29
As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think the system of morals and His religion as He left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see.29
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I believe that we have forgotten our freedom and what we fight for. Politics should not be in the military telling them what to do as far as their beliefs in God. And our oath that we take is being taken away
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Well our country was founded on religious freedom not just to be Christian's. But I belive alot of people are fighting the Christian faith because of all the wolf's clout in what they do under Christian faith. Prime example is the Catholic faith. They are doing alot right now to fix what is wrong. They have been rocked with scandal like child molesters, priest spending millions of dollars on houses. You have televangelist taking people's money under false pretense. You have People using the bible to justify slavery, you have people using hate in the name of God. The sad part is These peopel detract from the christian faith. God is about love and forgiveness. People need go start to live by their faith and not do all wrong during the week and then ask for forgiveness on sunday just to restart.
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Jefferson was most certainly a Christian by any of the normal standards, nor did he consider himself one. As was Franklin. Several of our founding fathers were what is normally called a Deist and Unitarian. There is a theory among some historians that Adams, Jefferson, Franklin, Wilson, Morris, Madison, Hamilton, and Washington were either Christians nor Deists, but theistic rationalist.
So that said, I think it is clear (outside of the treaty of tripoli, which clearly states as federal law we are not a Christian nation) that out founders did not intend on the US being a "christian nation", but a nation that has Christians, Jews, and members of other faiths.
So that said, I think it is clear (outside of the treaty of tripoli, which clearly states as federal law we are not a Christian nation) that out founders did not intend on the US being a "christian nation", but a nation that has Christians, Jews, and members of other faiths.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
We are not by definition a Chistian nation. However we are a nation that has be guided by Christian principles. This is the very symbolism infered when the President takes his oath with his hand on a Bible. We are at most, or should be, a God fearing nation. It's up to the individual to decide which Faith they should choose.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
Swearing of a holy book is 1. Not required, it is just tradition and 2. Was a practice Washington took from his Freemason background (which allows for any holy book).
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If you think America is a "christian nation,"... you have been misinformed. Nothing about religion makes any country great.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
Explain this sir,
I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the Field, and finally, that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all, to do Justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that Charity, humility and pacific temper of mind, which were the Characteristicks of the Divine Author of our blessed Religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy nation. GEORGE WASHINGTON
I think our first president would disagree with you.
I now make it my earnest prayer, that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in his holy protection, that he would incline the hearts of the Citizens to cultivate a spirit of subordination and obedience to Government, to entertain a brotherly affection and love for one another, for their fellow Citizens of the United States at large, and particularly for their brethren who have served in the Field, and finally, that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all, to do Justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that Charity, humility and pacific temper of mind, which were the Characteristicks of the Divine Author of our blessed Religion, and without an humble imitation of whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy nation. GEORGE WASHINGTON
I think our first president would disagree with you.
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I will make no attempt to reason with you SGT Anthony Rossi, it would be a futile gesture and a waste of all our time.
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Any time. My intent is to share my honest opinion/views with an honest attempt at being respectful. I appreciate yours in kind.
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not their specific religion or dont want it pushed on them. our country is founded on ideals of it not on it specific. freedom of any religion or lack their off is very important to many of Americans.
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Which came first philosophy, religion or science? Faith is unwavering. What ever you choose to believe in don't let anyone change your mind.
I believe in Balance in all things.
Good and Evil and science. I also see this as a conundrum in that we today's society believe what is inherently taught to us through life, experience both positive and negative. This helps define or core values and beliefs.
I believe in Balance in all things.
Good and Evil and science. I also see this as a conundrum in that we today's society believe what is inherently taught to us through life, experience both positive and negative. This helps define or core values and beliefs.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
There is something to be said for ballance.
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. -Philippians 4:5
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. -Philippians 4:5
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COL Ted Mc
SFC Stephen King - Sergeant; Good question.
I believe that the answer is "Superstition" from which all religions (and "Priest Classes") are mere refinements.
[NOTE:- The possibility that the "Superstition" might, accidentally, have been correct cannot be totally discounted.]
I believe that the answer is "Superstition" from which all religions (and "Priest Classes") are mere refinements.
[NOTE:- The possibility that the "Superstition" might, accidentally, have been correct cannot be totally discounted.]
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religious tradition did not make our country great, it had nothing to do with religion. religion has been something that in many cases made things worse, not better.
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SGT Anthony Rossi
LCPL Lefler thanks for your response. I present the words of our founding father JOHN QUINCY ADAMS as my proof.
In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.8
In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior. The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.8
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COL Ted Mc
SGT Anthony Rossi - Sergeant; Although the source you got the John Quincy Adams quote from may have misled you somewhat - Mr. Adams DID NOT say "In the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior."
What he did say was "Why is it, Friends and Fellow Citizens, that you are here assembled? ... Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior?" and you might notice the appearance of the "?"s rather than the "."s.
How is that significant?
Well, because Mr. Adams is NOT making a statement that something "is true" but rather he is asking a question.
Nor did he say " The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.".
What he did say was "Why is it, Friends and Fellow Citizens, that you are here assembled? ... That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity, and gave to the world the first irrevocable pledge of the fulfilment of the prophecies, announced directly from Heaven at the birth of the Savior and predicted by the greatest of the Hebrew prophets six hundred years before?" and, again, you might notice the appearance of the "?"s rather than the "."s. (You might also notice the sudden appearance of a reference to the Jews [and how America's laws are based on the Mosaic Law].)
If you want to say that Mr. Adams was admitting that America was "Jewish Nation" you'd be just as correct.
[BTW, "the first precepts of Christianity" are common to every other religion that has ever existed {admittedly the name by which "God" was called has frequently changed). So, if you want to say that Mr. Adams was admitting that America was a "nation founded on the principles that all people everywhere have found to be 'first principles' - regardless of what their "princes" and "tyrants" said" you'd also be just as correct.]
What he did say was "Why is it, Friends and Fellow Citizens, that you are here assembled? ... Is it not that, in the chain of human events, the birthday of the nation is indissolubly linked with the birthday of the Savior?" and you might notice the appearance of the "?"s rather than the "."s.
How is that significant?
Well, because Mr. Adams is NOT making a statement that something "is true" but rather he is asking a question.
Nor did he say " The Declaration of Independence laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity.".
What he did say was "Why is it, Friends and Fellow Citizens, that you are here assembled? ... That it laid the cornerstone of human government upon the first precepts of Christianity, and gave to the world the first irrevocable pledge of the fulfilment of the prophecies, announced directly from Heaven at the birth of the Savior and predicted by the greatest of the Hebrew prophets six hundred years before?" and, again, you might notice the appearance of the "?"s rather than the "."s. (You might also notice the sudden appearance of a reference to the Jews [and how America's laws are based on the Mosaic Law].)
If you want to say that Mr. Adams was admitting that America was "Jewish Nation" you'd be just as correct.
[BTW, "the first precepts of Christianity" are common to every other religion that has ever existed {admittedly the name by which "God" was called has frequently changed). So, if you want to say that Mr. Adams was admitting that America was a "nation founded on the principles that all people everywhere have found to be 'first principles' - regardless of what their "princes" and "tyrants" said" you'd also be just as correct.]
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