Posted on Feb 15, 2018
Why do you think there are so many school shootings now?
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Why do you think there are so many school shootings now as opposed to say 25 to 30 years ago? We all know that guns can’t shoot themselves, so obviously that is not the problem in my opinion. I honestly believe that there is a direct correlation between the rise of school shootings and the taking of God out of the classroom, and kids not getting a well deserved a** whooping. Thoughts on this?
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How many horror and violent action movies and video games and TV shows we on in the 1950's, '60's and '70's? How many people went to church? How many people saw the Ten Commandments posted on the walls of their schools? "Thou shalt not kill," is a powerful message, and one that was reinforced in society, a society that values the Judeo/Christian ethic. Today there is a full-court press on traditional values by the Fake News Alt-Left, anti-American liberal ANTIFA nut cases. By the way, that brings me to the person who committed this crime. It's a gestalt. A collection of themes and conditions. How many schools have not had a shooting? Why? Shouldn't we be looking at those schools for answers to how we can prevent future attacks? But how would that even begin to address the illness of the promiscuity of violence?
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It's an easy target, it gets the shooter tons of media attention, for some reason these disturbed people think it is ok to take revenge on students because of how bad their life is. I don't know what the answer is. This last one should have been stopped, the church shooter got thru the loop because the Air Force did not put him on the list. The FBI should have checked into this kid because his post where reported to them. Our society is teaching kids that life in general is not as important as their individual needs.
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Okay. Gonna triple-dip on this discussion now. Just came across this and posted it to start a new discussion, but decided to share it here as well. How can we have a discussion when so many are lying...
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Liberals claim there have been 18 school shootings in 2018.We dug deeper and found out the truth...
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Agree....there's hidden agenda and once they're ready we'll all loose every Liberty and Rights we have as Americans!
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Not in this valley. In fact when the flood hit and the army showed up to help prevent looting it was discovered we had more guns than they did, no looters in this valley either.
SFC (Join to see) Anytime I go anywhere, most of the folks are staring at their phone. I go to the library during school hours and see kids that should be in school, playing war video games on the computers. Parents are not instilling discipline or respect in their children. Kids are being taught that they are special and they can do whatever they want. There is no accountability anymore. Kids and adults are giving a second chance, third chance, etc., and they keep repeating bad behavior because they are not held accountable.
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We have lost respect for each other and more importantly we have lost respect for life itself. Hence some think it is okay to kill if they have a grudge.
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My take - I don't think young people are grounded in reality anymore. Facebook and social media, rumor and reputation... these dominate a young person's life in a way that conventional personal relationships do not. Living in this realm gives them a warped sense of reality, moral relativism, and detachment from values beyond groupthink.
One thing almost all of these muldoons have in common is being social outcasts.
One thing almost all of these muldoons have in common is being social outcasts.
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When I went to school the worst thing that happened would be some pulling a knife, other than that is was normally a good fist fight. In my most honest opinion, things went down hill when the board of education(paddle) was taken out of the equation and disipline in the home taken away from the parent(thank Dr. Spock).
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JP4 said it. There isnt a one size fits all answer. But if we ppeel back the onion far enough, I blame the Hippies. My mother's generation. They are the ones hat started that love and feelings for everyone bs. It has spread through the decades like wild fire. Now its not Johny's fault anymore, its the bad kids that picked on him. Johny now needs meds to cope with being picked last for Elementary school soccer in PE. but everyone still gets a trophy! When will we learn that this is only going to get worse as long as we continue this type of behavior. Im not suggesting that we flip the script and are straight mean to our youth but instead raise them with a sence of realism. The good guy dosent always win like in the movie and life is hard. Oh by the way no one owes you shit get out there and work for it. If that kid is picking on you, stand up for your self. My boy was 6 and anothe kid was picking on him. He stood up and knocked the older boy down. The principal called me in. At the end of the conversation he told me that he did not condone violence even in defence of oneself. I told him that the weak ones never do. My son wasn't picked on anymore by that boy though!
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"...the taking of God out of the classroom..."? Do elaborate. There weren't many if any school shootings while I was in public school in the 80s and 90s and it had nothing to do with prayer or religious discussion in school. Internet and cyber tech, increased exposure to radical ideologies and behavior, the changing family dynamic (more apathy and less discipline depending on meds to help control children), mental health, poor education, poor cultural values, lack of accountability by children and adults, accessibility of firearms (not the buying but the fact a kid knows where and how to access an adult family member's firearms), and lack of mentorship.
Religion begins at home with the family not in school. If parents want God in the classroom, go to a private religious school.
Religion begins at home with the family not in school. If parents want God in the classroom, go to a private religious school.
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Basically because parents don't parent and adults are worthless in cases of bullying in schools. This leads to the kid taking their own action which usually is to try to fight them. But it's been ending in more and more shootings. If parents would still say no every once in a while and comfort their kid when the kid needed it, this wouldn't be happening. Teachers are pretty horrible in a lot of cases as well.
I definitely feel like it has a bit to do with the fact that people are trying to be more open to everything. Essentially, society got so soft that it can no longer fulfill some of the necessary roles of producing another generation of strong people. Challenge forces people to become better to get through them. With no challenge, there is no reason to become better. Some would argue the opposite, that the shootings are the challenge to overcome. I suppose the memories the survivors have could be seen that way. A new challenge to overcome. But it doesn't really work like that for PTSD.
It also may have something to do with the nature of technology. The younger ones had access to everything at their fingertips when they were still extremely young. Granted, that allows them to be very smart at a young age. It also leads to things like the tide pod challenge and other attention seeking behaviors when combined with the terrible adults and being spoiled.
I definitely feel like it has a bit to do with the fact that people are trying to be more open to everything. Essentially, society got so soft that it can no longer fulfill some of the necessary roles of producing another generation of strong people. Challenge forces people to become better to get through them. With no challenge, there is no reason to become better. Some would argue the opposite, that the shootings are the challenge to overcome. I suppose the memories the survivors have could be seen that way. A new challenge to overcome. But it doesn't really work like that for PTSD.
It also may have something to do with the nature of technology. The younger ones had access to everything at their fingertips when they were still extremely young. Granted, that allows them to be very smart at a young age. It also leads to things like the tide pod challenge and other attention seeking behaviors when combined with the terrible adults and being spoiled.
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