Posted on Feb 15, 2018
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Why do you think there are so many school shootings now as opposed to say 25 to 30 years ago? We all know that guns can’t shoot themselves, so obviously that is not the problem in my opinion. I honestly believe that there is a direct correlation between the rise of school shootings and the taking of God out of the classroom, and kids not getting a well deserved a** whooping. Thoughts on this?
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MSgt Lee Lamp
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There are many good observations in the discussion. My two cents...in addition to many of the things listed by others (lack of discipline, faith, family, structure) we have a failing judicial system. There are effective laws in place to “control” the purchase of firearms however people in the position to enforce those laws choose to ignore them. People having the responsibility of updating state and federal databases don’t do their jobs. Poor interagency communication results in people with disqualifying characteristics being approve to purchase weapons. Judges fail to follow the constitutional laws and wish to legislate from the bench. To me many times it’s a matter of wondering just why people don’t do their jobs.
A lack of overall respect for others is also a prevailing contributor.
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LT Michaline Schalton
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Too much anonymous hate and not enough love. No one cares about anyone these days. Social media bullies pile it on people every day with no consequences. Under such pressures, some folks just snap. One wrong word in a chat thread and the bullies just pounce hatefully. I can only imagine what the recent murderers endured IRL and online.
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LTC Multifunctional Logistician
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PC is the culprit. We have had firearms before we even formed this country. What has been introduced that has allowed school shooting should have been the question. No accountability of children nor the parents of the children. What developed PC? Liberal ideology. Ban liberal ideology and allow parents, not the government, to raise children.
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PVT Mark Zehner
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When I went to school every boy carried a knife on his belt! Most cars had gun racks and guns inside them no one would dare enter the school and start shooting them up
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CPO Mark B.
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When you shield your child from every possible inconvenience they'll end up either spoiled or overly dependent. Parents have strived to be their child’s friend and that cannot work. Parent must learn to demand respect from their kids. Teach kids respect. Be ready to discipline if needed
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SP5 Ward Posey
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As a former teacher (Social Studies) and a Viet Nam veteran, I feel that one aspect of the problem is the lack of respect for education and educators in this country. I have listened to parents and politicians bad mouth education for too long. Low pay, crowded classrooms, and the expectation that it is the schools responsibility to feed and raise the children. All this adds up to the descent of America into third world country status. Shooters and lax gun laws are part of this problem. Military weapons do not belong on the street or for sale to the public at large, period. (Yes I am a gun owner, Shotguns, and revolvers). Ask yourself, Why is it mostly young immigrants and the children of recent immigrants who take the majority of academic awards (Science and over all academic excellence) in national competitions? My answer, they want it more, know how to properly study and have good parenting, they flat get the job done. If you want to stop school shootings, then improve the schools, pay the teachers and hire more staff so classrooms don't have a student teacher ratio of 40 to 1. Instead of arming teachers, improve the classroom. AND GET THE MILITARY WEAPONS OUT OF CIVILIAN HANDS.
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SGT Jeff Lyles
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And just what MILITARY WEAPONS (your emphasis) are you talking about: M-16A2/M-4s, M-14s, M-240s, M-203s, etc? All covered by the 1938 National Firearms Act that restricts MILITARY WEAPONS from the general public. M-1903s, M-1917s, M-1 Garands, M-1 Carbines, 1911/A1s, K-98s, SMLEs or hundreds more obsolete muzzleloading, rolling block, bolt action or semi-automatic weapons used by militaries throughout the world? Or is the phrase MILITARY WEAPONS a catch-all for any and all semi-automatic rifles, shotguns and pistols regardless of origin? Or just those "Black, scary and/or evil-looking rifles using standard capacity (20 or 30 round STANDARD magazines)? What about the hundreds of thousands of civilian hunting semiautomatic rifles in use since the early 20th century and in calibers much deadlier than the 5.56/.223 caliber? What about those rapid fire extended magazine lever-action rifles that can easily be converted to semi and full-automatic using simple hand tools? Are they to be outlawed as well?
I find it quite reprehensible that any service member that swore to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States decides to disregard it, or even worse, is ignorant of why it was included in our Bill of Rights. And please don't regurgitate that tired, old liberal BS about "...the Founding Fathers didn't mean to cover AR-15s...". By that reasoning, radio, TV and the internet should be banned since no one back then could even dream of them! Regulate one, the others quickly follow.
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SP5 Ward Posey
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I walked my walk, you walk yours. Be careful about going after a fellow vet, I do not. As far as my being reprehensible. I can go lower. I lost body parts in 'Nam so don't ever call me reprehensible. I do not talk down to fellow combat vets and I don't expect it done to me. I am entitled to my opinion, If you don't agree that is your privilege but not to call me names or debase my character.
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MAJ Infantry Officer
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I am for more ass whoopings
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SGM Frank Marsh
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most of these shootings are mentally disturbed individuals, on medications. I blame it on a system that lets these folks walk free among us and go to the regular schools and work next to us. All of this can happen, but only when they are regulated. In essence, I blame the laws and the physicians. On another note, most of these folks could have been stopped by a metal detector or even a taser.
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SFC Robin Patty
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While I do see them on the rise, and this sounds heartless but it’s just a fact, kids are highly unlikely to ever encounter or even know someone that was in a building when one took place. At Virginia Tech both my dad and my sister were in buildings adjacent to where the shooting took place. All that they could do was hide as VT, even though in Virginia it’s up to the president of the university, was and still is a gun free zone. That’s a big part of the problem, eliminate gun free zones. Also make it easier for teachers and principals to expel trouble makers and/or report outbreaks to law enforcement or mental health professionals.
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PO2 Dale Brown
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Most of these shooting are a form of suiside by cop. The shooters have no exit plan. A symptom of a greater problem that exists- are you aware of how many school age children have committed suicide in the last 10 years? Somewhere around 45,000- most experts in this field this that only 1 in 24 actually sucked in committing suicide. The vast majority of the school shooters are white males who were unable to comply with draconian discipline rules are were treated with psychotropic drugs to control their behavior. I don’t think bullying is as large an issue as mainstream media portrays it to be, as again, most shooters are white- as I am- but I have to think that given the dynamics of modern society that young Black men are bullied much more than the average white. Social media platforms have a great impact as well, allowing bullying to go on 24/7- I have no solutions, only observations- My advice to parents is to hold your kids close, be part of their life, enjoy and protect them while you can, because it won’t be as long as you think before they are adults. My wife and I pulled our kids out of government school and put them in private Christian schools. There is a fatal flaw with the government school system where compliance is valued over learning ( example- isolation booths in Iowa ), guns don’t have a great impact on the numbers, if it wasn’t guns it would be knives, stones, or cars. If it sounds like I don’t trust my government- you are correct- not since I came home from my 2nd tour in Nam - Love My Country
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