Posted on Sep 6, 2015
Why does the Army not have as much pride as the Marines?
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I have worked with all the services frequently during my career. I see the ups and downs in each service. The Army seems to have the biggest attitude towards itself though. I would like to hear thoughts as to why Soldiers seems to talk bad or dislike the service that I love. Some may disagree this is true, but I do not think I am off base by stating this.
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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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Do you think it is possible for the Army to ever show the universal pride in service that the USMC does?
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What kind of a question is this?...Soldiers have great pride and Esprit de corps....
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You're all wrong. USCG has a recruiting wait list longer than any service. We don't have to advertise continuously, our deeds speak for themselves. USCG has the smallest bases with the smallest crews sparsely placed around the world. We don't have golf courses or housing units, or large exchanges/commissaries, or great special services. Most of the time we look like auto mechanics after a week under a dirty car. We do have sharp looking ships. Nothing compares to sailing aboard the oldest active commissioned ship in the USA (USS Constitution is not truly active); USCGC Eagle.
USCG gets the most done with the fewest men for the least amount of money. Being doing so proudly since 1790. Go Bears.
USCG gets the most done with the fewest men for the least amount of money. Being doing so proudly since 1790. Go Bears.
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Let me first start out by saying that I loved my time in the Army. Also, never believed that "the corps" was better. Not for one second. That being said, and keep in mind I served mid 90's, my observations. The marines were able to meet recruitment numbers consistently and easily. A. Because their strength number was always low. B. They were allowed to be more selective in recruiting. The Corps would not accept people, for whatever reason, and then send them over to the Army recruiter because they will take them. This did a couple of things. It built up this "fake aura" surrounding the corps about being "the best" just because they were selective. People thought tougher entrance req. then it must be better. It also began a trend of soldiers who enlisted, but if they could, would rather be somewhere else. They were the people who, didn't have a job, needed a career because only GED etc. no prospects, need help paying for college. and the list goes on. Now, compare that with the attitude and mentality of your typical Marine recruit. The marine is there because that's what he wants, being a marine is what he wanted since 5, he can't wait to go to Paris Island (or place out west lol) Anyway, you guys get the picture. You may think I was "nice" to the corps, I was going to be a marine before I enlisted in the Army. Unfortunately, I couldn't pass the physical, they could get my head to fit in that damn jar.... Haha, j/k marines, semper fi.
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The marines are light infantry. In the army our light infantry are called rangers. Similar mission same morale.
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Army "Pride" focuses on the unit, USMC focuses on the "The Corps". Makes sense as the Army is much larger and more diverse force. Also in my experience in dealing with junior USMC enlisted and O's they tend to puff their chest out and degenerate other non-USMC forces as a way to make themselves feel better. Professional Officers and NCO's, both USMC and Army treat each other's service with respect.
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The Warrior Ethos and brotherhood that is instilled in each Marine through basic training cannot be duplicated by the other services. As a Navy Hospital Corpsman stationed at MCRD Paris Island i observed how each individual recruit is indoctrinated and immersed in the tradition of honor and service that is exclusive to our fighting Marines. All Marines are first and foremost a rifleman, and a brother/sister to their comrades. In no other service is this bond of family displayed.
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Says who every unit i was assigned to had pride in everything we did....there's lots of hipe about the toughness of the Corps and I respect that ...i expect the same respect
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Every Service talks craps about it's own but with the Corps you have to look at our history, we have some of the greatest men to have ever served, followed by the Navy then the Army. We have to live up to that and to what America expects from the Marine Corps. We are respected and feared around the world and no Marine every wants that to change on his or her Watch. Semper Fi!!
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Of coarse I am very proud of being in the Army
The problem is not the Army as much as politics which use the Army as there own social experiment which has set different standards for different genders race creed and religions
The Marines seem to stick their own set of standards and stand behind them
The Army leadership is so weak the I would fire more the half the Generals and put soldiers who have a backbone and look after their troops instead of being a politician
I loved my 3 plus decades in the Army Hated the politics
The problem is not the Army as much as politics which use the Army as there own social experiment which has set different standards for different genders race creed and religions
The Marines seem to stick their own set of standards and stand behind them
The Army leadership is so weak the I would fire more the half the Generals and put soldiers who have a backbone and look after their troops instead of being a politician
I loved my 3 plus decades in the Army Hated the politics
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has to do with the mission they have to have the trust that close combat requires
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