Posted on Apr 20, 2014
Why does the Army not relieve poor leaders of command?
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We are quick to cut NCOs and Jr Enlisted for infractions, but we fail to hold officers to the same standard. If you UCMJ an NCO for DUI, why do officers get a pass? What about extra-marital affairs? I don't understand how officers can hold ourselves so high and be above the standard. The Navy is pretty quick to fire command personnel. Why does the Army choose to keep bad leaders in command, just to allow them to save face?
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That doesn't seem to be so much the case recently as a good number of officers have been relieved of duty. However, I do agree with you that it takes a lot more to get an officer relieved or disciplined. The pushback from "on high" is tremendous
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How about RIP ward made 4 stars. Commanded AFRICOM. Got demoted to 3 stars. He was capped anyway
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CPT (Join to see) Im not saying what you personally observe is incorrect, but I will say overall your very off base.
I've personally seen many officers, charged, convicted, kicked out, some sent to jail as well.
Even in this small mico demographic of military service known as rally point I know of three former members that WERE officers who are no longer officers, members here and at least one is STILL in jail.
I've personally seen many officers, charged, convicted, kicked out, some sent to jail as well.
Even in this small mico demographic of military service known as rally point I know of three former members that WERE officers who are no longer officers, members here and at least one is STILL in jail.
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The real answer is a mixture of its much more embarrassing for the military when an Officer steps on it and brings all sorts of bad PR to a unit which can and will damage carriers all over the place against enlisted purges for knuckleheads which hardly ever make it above local command.
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I've seen a LtCol and CSM be relieved and forced to retire right before a deployment they were supposed to lead because they tried to influence an E7 who was a grader of a PT test to falsify the score so the LtCol could pass. Unfortunately, I had a lot of respect for the guys before they did that. I mean, I still like the LtCol but I don't have much respect.
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