Posted on Oct 31, 2014
Why don't officers wear marksmanship badges?
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The day I turned my chevrons in for gold bars I noticed something. All the officers I've ever seen never wore marksmanship badges in dress uniforms. I just assumed they were unauthorized for officers and removed it voluntarily. I honestly never desired to wear the badge (probably because I was only ever a sharpshooter), but I haven't found any documentation specifically preventing officers from wearing them. Do you think officers should wear them?
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From the IG Desk: The local Commander directs uniform wear including accolade display. Most often, this is mission directed. In full combat, one doesn't want to take the field appearing as if a battery operated neon sign were flashing. There in no reg. to my knowledge acting to bar wear of any marksmanship badge by any officer. There may be local Command directive, but I've never seen that. I am proud of my weapons skills. As both Enlisted, Warrant, and Commissioned, I have fired "EXPERT" on every weapon given to me by the U.S. Army, including helicopter gunships (in flight school). My father introduced me and my three brothers to a match-rifle when I was 10 years old...safety, sighting, shooting, the whole works. Wonderfully competitive, I out-shot my siblings with bulls-eye scored every time. This skill blossomed during my 30 year Army career earning me EXPERT on the M14 rifle, M16, 45cal and 9mm handgun including Charley-model gunship weapons (Vietnam). I have both the Rifle and Pistol Expert Badge on my dress uniform and wear them proudly. Other accolades due to combat speak to my weapons skills in those arenas (Vietnam, Balkan Conflict, Iraq).
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Officers don't wear marksmanship badges.... This is NOT in the regulations. In fact the regulations show proper placement of the marksmanship badges using an officer wearing them as the example. I once had a COL tell me that I should not wear mine. I told him that it was not regulation. He stated, "well that might be, but officers just don't wear them." I responded that "Most officers don't shoot as well as I do." Then I realized that my weight as a 2nd LT who knew the regs and was a competitive shooter had reached its limit. Point is, "A Soldier that can't shoot, isn't..." We should be experts in whatever we can be, and strive to be better in those that we are not. I am a competitive shooter for the USAR Competitive Marksmanship Team, and it is vital that we train others in our skill set and help them to advance themselves. I am a distinguished pistol badge holder, distinguished .22 pistol, distinguished revolver and halfway to my distinguished rifle badge. Go out and learn how to shoot, and be proud of your accomplishments, and then help others become proficient in their arms.
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I shot expert with every weapon I shot for qualification as an Army officer. That was 50 years ago. I still shoot that way and I'm an NRA Certified Firearms Instructor and Range Safety Officer today. Back then, officers were discouraged from wearing marksmanship badges because shooting was not what we were to do expect in self-defense. As a "1542" small unit officer infantry leader our fingers were supposed to me on maps and radio handsets, not triggers. That is why we did not wear those badges.
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
Anyone who thinks that an officer isn't going to have to do any shooting in combat needs to read about CPT Benjamin Salomon. He wasn't even a combat arms officer, but was a dentist. http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id= [login to see] 94
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CW4 Tim Claus
Not a matter of never firing, but a matter of primary function being on a trigger. In several WWII battles in the Pacific, the admin, supply, mechanics and cooks held the line at the end of engagements until relief arrived, or the Japanese broke off the engagement, due to casualties in the line platoons.
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Maj Ken Brown
I don't remember carrying a pistol in the field other than lock-on training; I carried a rifle. If there were bad guys in the bush, a pistol marked one as a leader or a crew-served weapon operator and thus made him a primary target. I kept a safe distance away from the radio operator, too. It's sort of like staying off the skyline. My father, the 88th ID SSgt, told me I needed to accomplish the mission and bring as many guys home as I could. We weren't much on countenancing micro-management.
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I believe they should wear them. If you look at old photo prior to the 80s, many wear them. I even saw many photos of Generals wearing them back in WWII. But, in the 80s, the culture did change, and Officers were discouraged from wearing them.
True, there is nothing in the regulations about this. But interesting note. If you look into the authorized Foreign Badges, you will see that the German Marksmanship Badges (Schuetzenschnur) is tagged with "Officer see Note 1", in which you may accept but not wear the award.
True, there is nothing in the regulations about this. But interesting note. If you look into the authorized Foreign Badges, you will see that the German Marksmanship Badges (Schuetzenschnur) is tagged with "Officer see Note 1", in which you may accept but not wear the award.
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Whether Or Not Any Of Us Wore Our Badges, It Changes Nothing.
When I Had But 2 Stripes,
I Had 2 Rows Of Badges & Ribbons,
I looked Absolutely STUPID, So I Only Wore 3..
Appeared Far More Likely For Me To Have The 3.
I Almost Made General Eisenhower Look Bad
When I Had But 2 Stripes,
I Had 2 Rows Of Badges & Ribbons,
I looked Absolutely STUPID, So I Only Wore 3..
Appeared Far More Likely For Me To Have The 3.
I Almost Made General Eisenhower Look Bad
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The comment of officers don’t wear the marksmanship badges because they are individual I will say BS. The officers wear a chest full of ribbons that are individual. I think that they don’t wear them is because e they can barley shoot.
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Naval Officers wear marksmanship badges for the M9 and the M16. CEC Officers wear them proudly. Properly maintaining, safety protocols and shooting a weapon in the Seabees is one of the most important of all training evolutions. Seabee Officers must be able to handle a weapon properly. The places we go we need them. We Build, We Fight.
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