Posted on Oct 31, 2014
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The day I turned my chevrons in for gold bars I noticed something. All the officers I've ever seen never wore marksmanship badges in dress uniforms. I just assumed they were unauthorized for officers and removed it voluntarily. I honestly never desired to wear the badge (probably because I was only ever a sharpshooter), but I haven't found any documentation specifically preventing officers from wearing them. Do you think officers should wear them?
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CPT Earl George
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My brother served as an Army officer on active duty from Jan 64-Jan 66. His DD214 shows under awards- Expert rifle badge. I qualified with the M16 in 1971 and my DD214 does not show anything related to my rifle qualification
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SFC Frank Quiroz
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Because they would probably shoot their foot off.
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WO1 Michael Shackley
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I was a Marine Warrant Officer, and I wore mine (rifle expert, pistol sharpshooter) on my Class A's. I think this might be an Army thing.
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LTC J Williams
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I believe Army officers should wear marksmanship badges along with any and all other badges earned just like the Marine Corps officers. I've always worn mine throughout my career, and by the end, I have earned a little more than most.
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CW5 Roger Jacobs
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Where are your wings Ranger?
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1SG John Millan
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Its a bizarre Army culture thing. Officers supposedly say it came from Britain
Officers as gentleman, not warriors. Stupid practice.
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LCpl George Gocheff
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My experience in the corps is simply that officers are not trained, as we NCO's, to shoot worth a shit - just to give us shit! They're really good at the latter but not so much the former. Before I trained them, most of the time one was safer in front of an officer armed with a handgun than anywhere else.
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MAJ Rob Kiser
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As a former NCO and officer, I had this come up often. I wore my marksmanship badges in both parts of my career, even though almost no other officers wore them. I was questioned just about every time I did. Had to quote regs to everyone from enlisted to colonels. My logic:
1. The uniform reg said wear it. At one point, 670-1 (although I could quote great parts of it at one time, I haven't read that one in a while) stated explicitly that everyone who meets the requirement should wear a marksmanship badge. In fact, every picture of an officer's uniform where a marksmanship badge would be appropriate showed one worn. How does an officer enforce any reg he doesn't follow himself?
2. An officer somewhere signed off on 670-1 before it was published. If it had acceptable to leave off the badge, it would have been easy enough to make that known in the reg itself.

Despite being proud to have served as an officer, I can also state with full authority that they can be pretty weird about some things.
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SGT Infantryman
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I think it’s based on tradition. Kind of like enlisted wearing ribbons on class B but officers only wear their AB AS wings if they have them. It’s just one of those us/them things between officers & the enlisted.
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LTC Stuart Knade
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Yes, they should, but . . . Early in my 32 commissioned years, starting as a mechanized rifle platoon leader, it was explained to me that officers did not wear marksmanship qualification badges on their dress duds. I could never find any rule or reg saying that or why. The explanation I was given was that as a matter of custom officers were expected to be proficient on all weapons under their command so the badge was irrelevant. It sounded like BS to me, but I went along and never wore them, even though I consistently qualified expert on every weapon under my command for which there was such a badge. I always suspected that the real reason was that the higher ranking officers never showed up on a range for practice or qualification, mainly because they had a bunch of other stuff to take care of that would not get done if they spent an entire day going through the qualification process, which as I progressed in rank I realized was very true. But, that meant the range cards for senior officers and very senior NCOs were typically "pencil whipped" to show that they had indeed qualified on their assigned weapon, which meant that they couldn't wear any badge without committing yet another UCMJ offense. Oh yes, as a 2LT range OIC it was demanded that I look the other way while that pencil whipping was going on, and when I didn't go along I got called on the carpet.

SIDE NOTE: there is or was a policy in writing that allowed Army soldiers who earned the German "Schutzenschnur" (which I did) to accept the award, but said that only enliisted soldiers could wear them on their dress uniforms. So, mine was only ever displayed on a shelf in my office. Sigh.

In my later years as a senior JAG, I insisted that the officers working for me qualify for real every year, and to make that possible I supplied out of my pocket the weapons, ammunition and private range time they could practice with, since in the Army, so-called "office soldiers" in the reserve components were never given ammo or range time for practice. Officially, you were expected to show up on Q day and qualify without any practice, which anyone who knows anything about shooting knows is incredibly unrealistic.
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