Posted on Mar 25, 2016
Why is it that Civilian Soldiers/Military believe their rank in service is relevant to what position they hold in civilian jobs?
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The only person that would ask that kind of question is someone that had no rank or responsibility in the military. It’s s bit baffling you’d even ask something so obvious.
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This only holds true in limited licensed professional fields. If you were highest ranking surgeon, therapist, registered nurse you can parlay that leadership role into great admin job. A former DCNS (deputy commander for nursing services) could have easily landed a boss job. Instead he retired and is in pursuit of a music degree to be jazz pianist. A retired ophthalmologist COL is a volunteer CPR teacher
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The error in that thinking can be highlighted by this example: Employer: Why should you be hired as the Executive Chef of our 4 star restaurant? Veteran: I have 20 years experience in the Army as an E7 SFC. In this position I was..." Do you really think that qualifies them as an executive chef?
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in the nothing to do with the military civilian world, where most pepole have no inking of how the military is structured, what grade or rank you were is irrelevant. So unless someone on your interview panel is prior military, clean up the resume, explain how many you evaluated, what accomplishments you made, and make sure someone eith no military background understands it. In the cilivan world rank means nothing.
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Well rank many times goes parallel to experience, so I’ve seen recruiters think higher ranks have more experience and they have proven they can succeed when being promoted.
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It still comes down to the persons attitude & how they adjust to the real world. Being a senior officer does allow people to step over into senior management positions. However, that may not always be a good thing. I used to be a VA nurse. Some of our top administrators were the type that thought the world revolved around them. When employees pointed how how bad they were, they would hear on how the person was a major or colonel & that they deserved respect. Then you run into someone who knew them in the military & you found out they were the same way there. We've all have had commanders or senior officers who were all about making themselves look good & to hell with the peons. In many civilians jobs they don't last long but other jobs, they flourish until they screw up badly enough. In today's world, yelling at civilian slugs you are in charge will get you fired. In the civilian world, lazy workers are tolerated, not in the military.
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I knew an Army Reserve company commander (Cpt) who was the subordinate of one of his Staff Sergeants in their civilian occupations.
They both remained professional at all times and were a highly functioning team both in and out of uniform.
They both remained professional at all times and were a highly functioning team both in and out of uniform.
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Look at it this way. If you start out as a production worker at a factory and make it to plant manager. And you look for another job. Your not gonna want to take a job as a production worker again. Your gonna want something semi equivilent
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Here’s the deal. Once you leave active duty you are no longer active duty. Either you successfully completed your contract, retired, forced out, or you got kicked out. I get sick and tired of seeing former service members complaining because “they did it differently in the military.” As I said before you are no longer in the military, stop trying to act like it. You are now a civilian, and if you want to be successful you have to mold to the standards of “their” world. Now, if you work for a DOD contractor or some military start up then rank still may be relevant. However, most jobs don’t give a rats ass if you were an E-5 or an O-5.
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Prior to 911, I was a CPT in the Army Reserve who worked a blue collar job at a company in a warehouse. I occasionally was called on to help with testing equipment, and my 2 supervisors were former E6 and E7. I always had a blast with them. I'd go back to that job in a heartbeat.
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