Posted on May 1, 2015
Why is it that rioting seems to occur most often in Black communities?
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This Rioting looting problem isn't a racial issue... The Problem is Why the F... is anyone rioting... It's not an acceptable or lawful behavior. There are better ways to show disapproval and to initiate change without harming the community or other citizens.
Stop giving credence to unlawful behavior to anyone because it doesn't help our country.
Stop giving credence to unlawful behavior to anyone because it doesn't help our country.
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SFC Charles S.
SGT Efaw (Mick) G. Yes, I know that area and history, and with Stockton, yes even recently they have had their issues with Police troubles. But, There is a difference between Trusting them and obeying them. YOU can, Not trust them and follow the laws... it is possible. Just saying.
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CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D
Sgt Jeremiah Brookins , Dr King talked about peaceful marches, nonviolence.
What we are seeing in not peaceful, in these black communities and at sport events. In the black communities thy are destroying stories that they visit, a church, a community center, all things that are needed and the owners are hurt much more. Again Dr King was talking about peaceful protesting.
What we are seeing in not peaceful, in these black communities and at sport events. In the black communities thy are destroying stories that they visit, a church, a community center, all things that are needed and the owners are hurt much more. Again Dr King was talking about peaceful protesting.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D, he did. He very much advocated against violent protest. However, he also noted that it is impossible to condemn the actions of rioters without also acknowledging that you can not ignore or marginalise people and judge them for what happens. As he noted, "riots are language of the unheard."
Rioting is wrong. It devastates the community it occurs in for decades. It shouldn't be tolerated or excused. At the same time, and there's some paradoxical tension here, when riots happen, it may be time to consider if how we've approached or ignored the problems in that area was wrong. Maybe we should have started listening 6 days before when the protests started instead of dismissing them as people just trying to play the victim card.
Rioting is wrong. It devastates the community it occurs in for decades. It shouldn't be tolerated or excused. At the same time, and there's some paradoxical tension here, when riots happen, it may be time to consider if how we've approached or ignored the problems in that area was wrong. Maybe we should have started listening 6 days before when the protests started instead of dismissing them as people just trying to play the victim card.
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Sorry to all I disrespect , I thought it would make an interesting discussion. I forgot about all the sports riots. My intentions were good I am far from a racist again I thought it would be an interesting discussion this coming from CNN and not FOX.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
The idea is a good one. The phrasing was poor. The raw number chart didn't help. Consider not using the word "only" or broad brush indictments of an entire people group next time.
Also, no misleading statistics. I hate misleading statistics. haha
Also, no misleading statistics. I hate misleading statistics. haha
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SCPO (Join to see)
How could any rational person confuse the issues and impacts of sports riots with race riots? Nor do I think your question was improperly posed. Far too many people are afraid to address the "elephant in the room." They'd rather dance around the real issues. Nothing gets a legitimate look or in-depth analysis when that happens.
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TSgt Kenneth Ellis
Were to start. First you had the new black panthers intimidating voters in Pennsylvania. And Obama DOJ blew it off. And then Obama interjected himself in every altercation. No support for the police. And you had the mayor or the Govenor say let them burn the city. And with Ferguson Obama has been silent . And they burnt it down twice. And blm being front and center at her convention. Blacks have been ignored by the Democrats. But know you have all the Fascist rioting. And before occupy Wall Street. And it's expectable. I remember the Mayor of Oakland apologizing to them.
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I wasn't going to respond to this post at first. After reading the Chiefs edit down the page though and thinking on it I changed my mine.
This shouldn't be a conversation about who does and doesn't riot. This should be a conversation about why. While I won't go into the current case going on in Baltimore, I will go into examples and situations that dealt with it and other riots that have occurred.
First question we need to ask is Why. The simple answer is usually the easiest one to give, injustice, anger, hate, fear. But then we have to step into it deeper. What is making a person violent instead of communicating their emotion? Is there an applicable outlet for this emotion? Why is this emotion going unresolved? Who is listening?
See this is what the manipulative sources like networks and media feeds at. They push these unresolved emotions to the surface by designating triggers in their broadcasts to trigger these things. The Media outlets want you emotional so you keep paying attention to them as they feed you ideas and emotions and let you know where you can let them out.
But the Media is just one source. There are bad people out there who want riots to happen so they can gain. Its easy to take something or get rid of something if the Mob does it. And these people are not just the humans in the crowd wearing ski masks, some times these people wear suits and ties, or maybe religious garb. These master manipulators want something from you, and if they can get an emotional response from you then maybe they can get you to do something for them.
The response they get is what they want. Who would cut a fire hose of humans trying to protect your own neighborhood? Why would a hockey fan destroy a store when his team one?
Both reactions above of beyond logic, they are emotion based.
So the question should be asked. Who wants a riot? And why?
When we start looking at those factors then we can start a conversation where both sides to the conflict can sit down and actually communicate to each other.
This shouldn't be a conversation about who does and doesn't riot. This should be a conversation about why. While I won't go into the current case going on in Baltimore, I will go into examples and situations that dealt with it and other riots that have occurred.
First question we need to ask is Why. The simple answer is usually the easiest one to give, injustice, anger, hate, fear. But then we have to step into it deeper. What is making a person violent instead of communicating their emotion? Is there an applicable outlet for this emotion? Why is this emotion going unresolved? Who is listening?
See this is what the manipulative sources like networks and media feeds at. They push these unresolved emotions to the surface by designating triggers in their broadcasts to trigger these things. The Media outlets want you emotional so you keep paying attention to them as they feed you ideas and emotions and let you know where you can let them out.
But the Media is just one source. There are bad people out there who want riots to happen so they can gain. Its easy to take something or get rid of something if the Mob does it. And these people are not just the humans in the crowd wearing ski masks, some times these people wear suits and ties, or maybe religious garb. These master manipulators want something from you, and if they can get an emotional response from you then maybe they can get you to do something for them.
The response they get is what they want. Who would cut a fire hose of humans trying to protect your own neighborhood? Why would a hockey fan destroy a store when his team one?
Both reactions above of beyond logic, they are emotion based.
So the question should be asked. Who wants a riot? And why?
When we start looking at those factors then we can start a conversation where both sides to the conflict can sit down and actually communicate to each other.
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CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D
I agree a lot of problems in this country have to do with the media. Thank you for your response.
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I love posts like this because guess what we live in the United States and we all have the right to be offended! I love it when people of all colors, creeds, sexual persuasions, religions, and backgrounds get offended because we all seem to forget in this nation we have that right:) i wonder if kim jong un would tolerate this?
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SP5 Fred Waters
The riots are not just in black communities they are all over just like previous folks said. When you have generations of police brutality a lack of jobs a lack of education a lack of opportunities you will get uprising from any race of people. When you have police officers abusing their powers you get distrust among the citizens. As we know while being in the military you find prejudice in there also, the good thing about being in the military is when you PCS you get to leave a lot of prejudice's behind you. When you live in an inner-city we have some prejudice law enforcement time after time abusing people. They grew up seeing these things and it's a build up. A lot of us would be in the same place if our parents had not had the opportunity to do better. I don't care where you are from in this world you're always going to find people that want to steal kill rape sell drugs do drugs so it's a world problem not a Baltimore problem not a Ferguson problem it's everywhere. My opinion is that a lot of us are blessed to get out of bad situations and to improve ourselves. I grew up in the ghetto but I made a change because I wanted better I could have turned out like the people you see on TV but I did not. Out of three other brothers one turn to the dark side he was like the people we see in Baltimore and other places where people are rioting and dealing drugs. So we all know what happens when people are depressed and have no hope they rise up. It might not be the right way but that's the only way they know and for some is just for destruction and chaos. How do we fix it? Jobs education will make a difference in the way that people look at life. When you have a mother and a father and a stable home and a good job the kids see this and they do what they see their parents do. For some when you look into your parents eyes and see no hope, you have no hope.
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Rioting is not limited to the black community as one of the other posters have pointed out in this thread i.e. Kentucky basketball fans got nasty after their team lost to Wisconsin recently. I think a better question is why did the residents of Ferguson MO and Baltimore Maryland rioted? I believe some of them were misinformed or closed minded to the facts that occurred in the deaths of the men by the police officer. Some were frustrated with their lives and economic status. Others saw this as an opportunity to destroy and steal. Outside agitators not from their communities were also there to stir up. trouble. And their communities were intentionally misled by bad evil leaders with agendas looking to take advantage of the situation fueling the flames.
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CCMSgt Michael Sullivan Ph.D
Sir you are correct, I should have gone more into the story and my thought then just posting the picture.
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A racially charged question if ever I heard one! However, the basic premise of the question, "that rioting occurs only in black communities" is just not true. In 2014 rioting occurred in the US, Africa, Ukraine, India, Venezuela, Bosnia and Herzegovina, France, Serbia, Israel, and Sri Lanka. In no way can it be said that all of these riots occurred in black communities. It would be better to ask why rioting occurs in poor communities? or why do riots occur at all? I would say that riots almost always occur where there is deep felt resentment or frustration which is often acerbated by poverty.
Most of us would agree that riots are highly complex events and are therefore difficult to breakdown without using a very broad brush. First, there is usually a starting incident, such as an accident, killing, or perceived injustice. Next, when people have gathered in a large group, for such things as speeches, funerals, rally's, moonlight vigil's or protest march's. The deep felt resentments, frustrations, and disappointments may then bubble to the surface. Individuals begin to feel that the group provides them with enough anonymity to overcome their usual reticence and/or moral scruples. At this point someone or something will incite or trigger the gathering to action and the riot begins.
The possible exception to this are "wild-ing" or "anarchistic" type riots where small groups or gangs form for the express purpose of causing destruction.
Most of us would agree that riots are highly complex events and are therefore difficult to breakdown without using a very broad brush. First, there is usually a starting incident, such as an accident, killing, or perceived injustice. Next, when people have gathered in a large group, for such things as speeches, funerals, rally's, moonlight vigil's or protest march's. The deep felt resentments, frustrations, and disappointments may then bubble to the surface. Individuals begin to feel that the group provides them with enough anonymity to overcome their usual reticence and/or moral scruples. At this point someone or something will incite or trigger the gathering to action and the riot begins.
The possible exception to this are "wild-ing" or "anarchistic" type riots where small groups or gangs form for the express purpose of causing destruction.
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SCPO (Join to see)
Do you seriously think the author of this original question or the comments left by others were taking into account Sri Lanka or any other countries you mentioned? Three guesses, the first two don't count.
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Anyone using raw numbers when discussing demographics is trying to manipulate you. There is absolutely nothing useful about raw numbers in this instance.
In this case, 414 deaths in 64% of the population vs 233 in 13%, so while whites outnumber blacks 6 to 1, the number of reported deaths is less than double. Also, 311 cases where race wasn't reported, but if we follow population percentages, that will inordinately impact the African-American community.
In this case, 414 deaths in 64% of the population vs 233 in 13%, so while whites outnumber blacks 6 to 1, the number of reported deaths is less than double. Also, 311 cases where race wasn't reported, but if we follow population percentages, that will inordinately impact the African-American community.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
I'd be interested in seeing those numbers crunched with socio-economic status factored in as well.
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Col (Join to see)
Exactly, the population ratio has to be presented along with the other numbers. Otherwise the full picture or scope is not presented in an accurate fashion.
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SGT Jeremiah B.
SSG Bryan McNally, I agree to a limited extent. Records are useful in establishing probabilities, but that usefulness is limited. Someone may have a history of trouble, but that does not necessarily mean the officer was correct in using lethal force. Likewise, an officer with a history of unnecessary force may have been completely justified in a particular instance.
Overall, I think you're spot on - the problems affecting Gray and the poor black communities are complex. It's not enough to say bad policing will fix it or that they just need to get all bootstrappy. A kid like Grey with a junkie mom and lead paint exposure is facing terrible odds in a community short on hope.
Overall, I think you're spot on - the problems affecting Gray and the poor black communities are complex. It's not enough to say bad policing will fix it or that they just need to get all bootstrappy. A kid like Grey with a junkie mom and lead paint exposure is facing terrible odds in a community short on hope.
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I'm just going to leave this here....
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/11/white-people-rioting-for-no-reason.html
White People Rioting for No Reason
All the times white people rioted for reasons other than legitimate grievances with our legal system.
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These numbers don't reflect the ratio. About 64% of the U.S. population is white and 12% black, which means black people are killed About 5 times more than white people by LE.
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SCPO (Join to see)
Who is involved in the upper levels of FBI UCR Part 1 crimes more in one racial group as opposed to others? Where do the more serious criminal confrontations occur on a per capita basis, since you brought up ratios. Your suppostion is NOT supported by facts, though facts are often overlooked or Carte Blanche ignored when the liberal perception of reality is challenged. When legend meets the truth, print the legend. The Media has been doing that for generations.
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