Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
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CPT(P) (Join to see)
Sorry to have gotten your hopes up, that was the information I was given second-hand.
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I was assured that they have now dropped the three soldiers with negative background information from our scroll and we will now finish the process without anymore hiccups hopefully.
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Anyone know details on P03-17 at 185 days? It shows it is still at JAG. Seems to be taking abnormally long.
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I updated this elsewhere, but I've been assured the three people that were holding up P03-17 have been removed from our scroll and we are being walked through the rest of the process.
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P02-17, My orders were iperm'd the same day the tracker changed to published. Well over a year wait in total until I got promoted.
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Anyone who is on P02-017 will be happy to learn that the order was published by NGB on 19 MAY 17... that was appx. 191 days on the counter. I'm sure timelines will vary on when those of us on the scroll will actually see our orders in iPERMS.
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FIN-A-LY! . . .I'm still contacting my Congressman though. Why in the world does it take so long to do something that Active Duty processes in the span of 6 months?
Is Reserve Component truly the Red-Headed Stepchild of the Army?
Is Reserve Component truly the Red-Headed Stepchild of the Army?
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CPT(P) (Join to see) - I just checked my iPERMS and my FEDREC order and promotion letter are both in there already.
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Wahhh... retired as a E6 NoGo honorably 4 yrs ago... still haven't seen my master wings or retirement ribbon. So officers complaining can pound sand.
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SFC S.t. Helms (Ret)
Meh... graduated out of a unit that didn't care. Perhaps I was such an @$$hole that it didn't matter (doubt it, I am still in touch with many of them). NatGuard let things slip.
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SFC S.t. Helms (Ret)
BTW... you're a touchy LT that probably has spent maybe 3 years in and never had to do a patrol. Whether in training or in the real world. Mind you, I never patroled in the real world. Leave that to the door kickers.
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As I stated earlier.. 16 years, 10 years enlisted, 2 deployments as 11B to Ramadi in the early part of the war. I assure you that I have just as much experience if not more than you retired SFC. Like I said, your post are unnecessary. This post is for Officer's looking for updates on the promotion process, there are plenty of other posts you can troll around on. Again, thank you for your service.
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"Pounding sand", that's some sort of corrective training, isn't it? I have my valet do that sort of thing for me. After he feeds me my caviar, of course.
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Just an update for P04-17. Sounds like we have at least another month, if we go the same way P02-17 went. Frustrating.
Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P04-17; 136 Days in DoD Approval cycle
Awaiting Dir of Mil Pers Mgmt; P04-17; 136 Days in DoD Approval cycle
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MAJ (Join to see) - Almost a month according to the tracker, but I think it was there about 2 months according to my email traffic with NGB.
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MAJ (Join to see) - SFC Chrissy Palmer. She is on the global. I'm sure she fields dozens of these types of emails each day, but she is very helpful. I try to limit emailing her to once a month.
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Looking for information on the scrolling process for Nurses that have been selected in the November Boards. We are still waiting on this scroll to make it thru Congress (we are told), anyone have an idea of how long this takes or who we can contact to find out where a name is in the process? Thanks.
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MAJ(P) (Join to see)
Is this for National Guard? The process we are discussing in this thread is the FedRec process for rank promotions which only applies to NGB Soldiers.
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your orders are produced by the state you belong to and filling that position. The reserve corps works off the federal system and federal line number. Therefore, waiting until that number is filled on the national scale. Just bigger numbers to deal with, the red tape on a larger scale combined makes for that long wait.
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Congrats everyone! I was also on Scoll L01-17, and my DOR was backdated all the way to FEB 2016! Anyone know how long it typically takes to get back pay and if its automatic?
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It took about a week for everything to show me as a W4. I would guess you are going to see the back pay the next time you have pay processed.
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I was in U01-17 and DOR is 22mar17 my state orders are from 22Mar16, did you guys did anything special or just were lucky to get your orders backdated?
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CW4 (Join to see) - W1 to W2 & O1 to O2 get back pay the rest of us get to suck it up.
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The G1 stopped tracking mine at 181 days....anyone else not see theirs update??
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Woke up this morning to see U01-17 showing this update: Published: SO# 74; 2017-04-17
Finally!
Finally!
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CW5 (Join to see) - lol mine just updated to 186 days....when will it be over!?! Congrats though Chief!
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1LT (Join to see) - Sir, I thought for sure you would have had similar news. Leave it to the process to continue to frustrate everyone. I hope yours is in the hopper coming out next. Thanks!
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I posted this last week in this thread...the tracker does not have the most up to date info. Here is what NGB sent me (copy/paste from their email): U01-17 was approved by the SecDef on 28 March 2017. However, orders have not been published as of yet. Once FEDREC receives the approved signed scroll orders will be published. This normally takes 2 to 4 weeks after approval. Personnel will still receive the effective and DOR date of 28 March 2017.
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CW5 (Join to see) - That is literally word for word what I heard back from them on L01-17. As stated prior, the good news is that if the scroll was already signed, then your getting promoted! Just have to use that MRT to "hunt the good stuff" until the orders are published
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I was informed today that L01-17 has been signed but not yet published....almost there!
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After 62 days in the approval cycle Scroll L02-17 has finally been updated in the G1 tracker to Office of the Judge Advocate General. Anyone know how far along that is?
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That's a nearly 30 day improvement from what I experienced ...."hunt the good stuff!"
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CPT(P) David Thorp - https://arngg1.ngb.army.mil/SelfService/CareerCenter/Home.aspx Then go to "My Soldier data" then scroll down to the lower left, it will say "Fed Rec Packet Status"
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Does anyone have an update on P-01-17? It has been at OSD since at least early March. I've noticed others posted updates today about their scrolls, which are after P-01-17, finally moving to OSD on the tracker so I am hoping that P-01-17 might be moving also! I called NGB today, but their info was only current thru 3/21/17 and still said OSD. Thanks!
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CPT(P) David Thorp
I actually was able to find it, I'm on L01-17 so I guess it will be a lot longer based on these comments
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CPT(P) David Thorp - I believe L01-17 already published. If you're on that one, you should already be a 1LT.

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CPT(P) David Thorp - It'll be a long time for that one. One of my buddies is on that scroll as well, and the counter was still on 0 days last time she checked about a week ago.
Well, I have finally gotten my state orders. Can someone share a link of where I can check on my scroll status please? I tried: http://g1arng.army.pentagon.mil/ but had the Server Error in '/' Application.
Any help would be much appreciated!
~Hoff
Any help would be much appreciated!
~Hoff
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Travis, that is great news. If you hear more please post, I am on AT with no CAC computers/mil email for a few more weeks.
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Will do, she mentioned that she was at a school, something about computer access and that she was working receiving scrolls from the SEC DEF...Anyways, hopefully there is a good reason why promotion scrolls have stopped and it has been fixed.
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Anyone looking for an update on P02-17; packets are at JAG day 123 in the red. My state orders were published in June 2016; will be a year before we know it.
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Unfortunately the better process is in the private sector. I often use the analogy of this is why Americans do not enjoy soccer. Not many activities have a clock that counts up and suddenly ends. Just think if NASA launches operated in a similar manner. We'd never know quite when the rocket was going to launch. Periods in a football, basketball or hockey games would suddenly end at an arbitrary time with fans all looking at each other in wonder.
A count down holds people accountable to deadlines and completing tasks in a timely manner. Government just doesn't work that way.
I am in the National Guard for a reason. Seven years of active duty taught me why I needed to go private sector.
A count down holds people accountable to deadlines and completing tasks in a timely manner. Government just doesn't work that way.
I am in the National Guard for a reason. Seven years of active duty taught me why I needed to go private sector.
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CPT (Join to see) - Very true sir and that's a interesting way of looking at the problem. Still IMO, this is clearly a process that is in need of a tune-up. There's no reason that it should take this long to process a promotion. I will at least get back-pay but many of the others getting promoted to O3 & above won't receive any compensation due to any delay experienced while their packets float from office to office.
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Just looked at the number today and noticed it is now at 141, but changed to Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense. According to the work flow, that should be the final step for O5 & below. Maybe the soccer game is about ready to end.
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Day 173 and still counting. Insanely long process. I am going to stop looking at this point. Some day it will publish.
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CPT Michael Ludwick
I was able to get in this morning and yesterday,but now I get "An error was experienced that could not be recovered from." This happens from time to time and will be back up in the next couple of days.
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CPT Michael Ludwick - Roger. I was in this morning too. It'll get resolved once someone gets a ticket that the website is having issues.
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Man...as if this this whole process wasn't annoying enough! Glad to hear its not just me
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Does anyone have any insight into this process? I can't seem to find anything and it would be really helpful to myself and others if someone that knows the ins and outs could educate us on what happens to a promotion packet once it's sent up for FedRec.
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Roger, sir. I wanted your assessment since you've had some experience with these things up at DA level. I was hoping you'd have that response. That's what I was thinking, too, but I wasn't sure since our BN S4 is in the same boat as me and was a scroll behind me. His hasn't changed so I was worried that there was a possibility that something was wrong. I'll retag this to include it in the personnel lane and see if we can get a 42-series perspective.
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LTC Tim Ellis - You were correct, sir. It looks as though the scroll number for the otehr guy in my BN has also changed to reflect the new FY. He was on 14-16 and is now on 02-17, still one scroll behind mine. Just thought I'd let you know you were right.
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My understanding is that the process has increased due to the fact that they are conducting background checks on folks as soon as your packet goes up but I'm not sure when that takes place. From what my state OPM told me, they had to conduct the background checks as folks that had DUIs DWIs, and other infractions were getting promoted. This process apparently weeds those folks out early.I'm at 55 days in and sitting at the same place you are and few answers.
Its amazing that there is no published directive on how this process works...very much smoke and mirrors. The G1 Tracker is more of a hindrance then a help at this point, as I've been told by numerous folks that it rarely gets updated.
Its amazing that there is no published directive on how this process works...very much smoke and mirrors. The G1 Tracker is more of a hindrance then a help at this point, as I've been told by numerous folks that it rarely gets updated.
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