Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

CPT(P) (Join to see) - When I went through AG school I was told a scroll was comprised of 1000 names. I have never heard anything less.

Just a note about the submission for the correction on date of rate, if needed. I found this while perusing the ABCMR guidebook. "Members of the Army National Guard applying to the Army Board for Correction of Military Records (ABCMR). Many Army National Guard regulations require the members of the Army National Guard to apply first to their State Adjutant General and then to the National Guard Bureau for correction of records. If after exhausting these resources, a member of the Army National Guard still feels that there is error or injustice in their record, they can apply to the ABCMR. They should include with their application a copy any communication they have had with their State Adjutant General or the National Guard Bureau concerning the requested correction."

This issue should be big enough for the TAGs to bring up to NGB.

Are you sure, P07-17 was published a month ago.
I am in P08-17 still waiting in JAG, so much for talking care of guard soldiers

Yes, DOR is 24 or 27 July.

CPT (Join to see) - Sir, I agree. I've literally already had 4 or 5 LT friends send up packets for transfer to the reserves, just to escape the fed rec process.

CPT (Join to see) - You make good points, but as alluded to earlier, a process that seems indifferent to Soldiers and their careers will push talent elsewhere. I'm ADOS now, and the FED REC process is costing me over $1,000 per month that it drags on. With no TIG/Back Pay it is incredibly frustrating. Multiply that times 3 or 4 over the span of a Guard career, and potentially that could rob someone of an entire grade. It just doesn't make sense that routine low to mid level promotions need/have to be such a source of anger and heartache. I don't know what it'll take to change the process, but if none of us make our concerns known, the only known is that nothing will change.

I've brought this up to my BN and they have agreed that they should put the promotable Soldier in a para/lin of the next grade prior to taking their actual position. This would allow the Soldiers packet to start the process earlier and hopefully receive their FEDREC sooner. For example; If I am chosen to take command in 6 months from now, I am moved to a vacant O3 billet so the state can start the promotion order and submit to NGB. At least this way you would only be waiting a couple months for your FEDREC instead of 8+. I know everyone's FEDREC process time isn't the same length, but it would help for sure. THAT is taking care of Soldiers.

1LT Philroy Hinds - Also, if you drop dead while you are in the ridiculous FedRec quagmire, you are listed on the State Militia rolls at the rank the state promoted you to.

Updated this morning, "Awaiting Selection for Publication of Order"

CH (2LT) (Join to see) - I saw a scroll from last year spend about 17 days on this step. Hoping ours is here for 2 days max.

Scroll P03-17 sat at JAG for 150+ days with the only explanation coming second hand from individuals calling NGB for updates.

Thank you. It is amazing, however, that out of all of the INTs, RUMINT is the most reliable intelligence.

Has anyone contacted NGB about this scroll? If not, I will we calling this week. Does anyone have CW3 Poppy's contact information? Thanks

CW4(P) (Join to see) - Did you ever call? I'm too afraid to. 253 days for my scroll.....

I have reached out to NGB several times, I have not been to talk to anyone yet. I did receive a email that my Congressional inquiry is being researched.

Finally, U10-17 is published!

I'm not sure if it is entirely correct. I believe it's case-by-case and state will only go back a few months for backpay. Remember, it's state money, not federal money.

1LT (Join to see) - I have a few LT buddies who didn't get back paid all the way to state orders, though generally those were the guys who had to wait a super long time because of weird issues with their scrolls. When I commissioned, NY took forever to federally recognize me as a 2LT, so I went to AT and got paid as an E5, and they didn't even back pay me for all of that, so I have my doubts that I'll receive back pay all the way to November '16. It would be nice though, having been ADOS for most of the wait.

2LT(P) (Verify To See) - If you are ADOS, depending on your agency, they most likely have budgeted in your promotion- so you should see that pot of money come to you eventually... For M-Day, it does come out of State funds so most likely won't see the entire load drop.
I know for Counter Drug in the Guard they had to budget my promotion in and almost cancel my orders because I was expensive all of a sudden but it worked out :-)

That makes sense. I caught a glance of the cost estimate, and I was wondering why I cost my unit over 80000 for a relatively short period of time.

2LT (Join to see) - L02 did something like 100 days there on the tracker

I'm on L03-17 and as of today, 106 days in and just moved off the JAG step.

Im in L03-17 mine is froze at Sec Def at 140 Days has anyone else received their Fed Req from this group

150 days at sec of def... I have orders for promotion may 2016

Outstanding. Looking back at my notes this is day 312 of my packet hitting the NGB level for acceptance. It's hard to stay optimistic. Really thought it would be this week.

Now that we are in mid-May, I certainly wouldn't expect anything until June based on the approach of Memorial Day.

Someone said that they were informed that the Scroll had been signed, but not returned to the NGB. How certain was that particular source that anything had actually been signed?

I went back through the posts, and someone indicated 16 days ago that they spoke with a SFC Palmer at NGB who indicated the scroll was signed by the SECDEF on May 2nd. Certainly do not have any proof or confirmation, so for what it is worth.

Sounds like we are going to bust the 200 day mark for sure.

I received the following information from SFC Palmer, following my communication that I have now become concerned following the update that P04-17 is now at SecDef and we P03-17 has been stuck at JAG for 3 months.

"Please see attached slide. As of the last update received from the DMPM on 23 May 2017, P03-17 current status is "Awaiting ORB Results". The reason that it still shows with OTJAG in the system is because etracker is not in line with the current staffing processes. The G1 tracker will continue to reflect OTJAG until it moves to the next office which will be the G1.
As a reminder, our office does not control the flow of the scrolls. Some scrolls may move faster or slower than others for different reasons. I can assure that if there is an issue with your promotion packet, it will be found at this stage in the process and you will be notified promptly. "

The slide she supplied, was the same one 1LT(P) Long shared with us a few days ago. I hope that I am mistaken but, at this point, I fully expect P04-17 to be published before our scroll and for P03-17 to find ourselves well into 200+ days.

It certainly appears to be the case that we could very well reach 240+ days based on feedback I have received. I wonder at times if the delay is due to the size of the scroll or if there is an issue with some of the packets. Although very frustrating, it is out of our realm of control. I told myself that I wouldn't check the tracker anymore, but it is a force of habit. Fortunately, I leave this weekend for two weeks in the field, so I probably won't have much time to check on it, which is a good thing because I shake my head each day I see no movement. I wish I knew someone on the ORB.

Looks like P03-17 has now taken the lead.

Has anyone actually reached out to their Congressman or Senator and spoke with them about this problem and lack of transparency?

A few of us on P02-17 discussed in a post further up that we are waiting until our orders publish to write our congressional delegation so we have a kind of start and end date of our entire process. This is not a "big Army" issue, nor is it an Air Guard issue. It is an Army Guard issue and our congressional members is our only hope to fix this process!

CPT(P) (Join to see) - I have; I sent an email a few days ago letting them know the process is broken.

1LT (Join to see) - That's what I planned on doing as well. Seeing as how the "brake-down" seems to be at the Federal end of this, our elected officials seem to be the only persons who could do anything.

1LT (Join to see) - U01-17...the scroll I mentioned in the original post.

Ahh, thank you. Sitting at day 160. Gotta love it. :)

1LT (Join to see) - So just to summarize the timeline on my scroll. It was approved at SecDef on day 165. Yesterday was day 185 when the orders were actually published.

CW5 (Join to see) - That is awesome.... as our scroll now sits at day 187 still "waiting sec def". This is unreal.

The way I figure, since most of this is probably run by Civilians, the hiring freeze that the CiC implemented is going to slow things down even more. I'm guessing they were short handed to begin with and telling them they can't hire more people unless it's justified as a critical position (which I'm guessing it'll be deemed that these positions are not) won't get any more people working on it, resulting in a larger backlog.

Good news is that this is the first scroll published since the new administration came in so that's a plus.

U02-17 moved the Awaiting Office or Secretary of Defense 141 this morning, 141 Days

Noticed the same for P02-17. It's good to see the system moves after a countless number of days in JAG

I think it moves all the time but is not getting updated as mine was never at the JAG. It has been to three offices the entire time on the scrolls, day 1 it was at the Dep CoS G-1 and stayed there for 120 day until I turned red.

Hopefully we'll be done soon!!!!

Do you know what the colors mean? I know what green and red mean, but what about white and yellow?

Do you know what the colors mean? I know what green and red mean, but what about white and yellow?

1LT(P) (Join to see) - Unfortunately, they don't mean much. Before the ticker starts, the color is white, Day 1-61 GREEN, Day 62-120 YELLOW, Day 121+ RED. When you're scroll publishes it should be GREEN again.

Thank you. It turned Yellow today and the waiting game continues.

Just so you all don't have to hunt for it, I found this further down in the comments for this post. It appears a WO listed the order of all the offices a scroll has to go through. See the screenshot (the website won't let me highlight and copy the text).

Judging from this list, I'd say I'm on Step 6.

I'm actually wondering if our packets were at step 6. DCS G1 for the majority of the time they have been up there as the OTAJ is on step 4. Do we go back a step or is the OTAJ really OGC? Anyone have any insight?