Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?

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CW5 (Join to see) - Yep I realized that about the tracker on about day 170! Hopefully they will figure this mess out and get everyone squared away. At this point I am more ticked about the pay deal, I have an AT coming up along with an 8 year anniversary. SHOW ME THE MONEY!

I hear ya, sir. I'm on year long ADOS. Check out the difference between W4 and W5 over 38..... No one defends the speed, just trying to keep people sane....

CW5 (Join to see) - Ouch. I feel your pain, Chief. I was on ADOS orders too, from May-Dec of last year, and scrolling the entire time. The pay difference between O2E and O3E with 10 years is over $1K per month, so I was losing my marbles and wanting to pull out the pitchforks. Now that I am M-Day, and my civilian job gave me the promotion the Army didn't, I am not happy by any means, but I've calmed down.

Sadly, even though we as SMs keep that trusted "I love me" binder, from which we produce proof of training, education, qualifications, etc., the NGB still screws it up. I often wonder that instead of using computers, they use an Etch-a-Sketch to process our paperwork.

Whew, that back pay is going to be SWEET!

Atleast you'll see backpay.

Is U06-17 going to hit 365?

the G1 tracker said 233 days, was updated Weds and published 1/4. My guess is someone had a OH S#$T moment, and realized 2LT-1LT receive back pay and decided to push it through.

Only 233 days?! Dude I'm over 250

233-days?! U06-17 is at 309-days and I fear that it may even fulfill CW2 Ballard's prediction to hit 365-days.

What are they doing at the Pentagon with our packets that is taking so long? How on earth did previous generations get their promotions on time?

From what I've heard it's the new process that is slowing things down. I wrote my Congressman, and his initial response was a cost saving measure, but he wasn't sure of the staffing levels in these offices etc. Right now I am about 100 days past what the FED REC process should be. Great for retention!

right there with ya! too bad we don't get any backpay.

Wait till you get to 250+ days...

151 days....try 253 days..... LOL

Man if it takes me that long itll be May at the earliest before I get promoted.

Try 308-days...!

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Have you called to check the status?

Yes, several times and each time: no answer, as in nobody answers the phone. I even called today, expecting that now the holiday season is over, the NGB would be back to work. Ha, how presumptuous of me. Today, U06-17 is at 306-days and still in the same office at Director of Army Staff, where it has been since September. Supposedly, it is at OSD, but now I am not so sure. This reminds me when I was a police officer and I would question a drug dealer on the street. Their mouth would utter a 'yes', but their head would swivel to the left and right like they were subconsciously admitting 'no', and they are not telling the truth. The parallels are astounding. Incredible, simply incredible.

Quite possible, indeed. That way, they can use the money to pay the GS employees and contractors who take their mandatory 10 smoke breaks, and then later leave work in their 5-series BMWs or E-Class Mercedes.

CW4(P) (Join to see) - attached where?

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I guess the system is working perfectly according to the letter you got. Lot words that mean nothing. No solutions, just a play by play of everything that you already know I'm guessing. Depressing...U11-17 206 days.

Steven I have a fellow warrant officer in my unit that is on U11-17, so we are monitoring his packet closely also. Below is my FEDREC status, just changed to waiting Office of SECDEF approval, should be any day now. Your scroll is not far behind.

Based on current trends you should be promoted by 2019. Sorry...

CW2 (Join to see) - don't count on it...

D16-17 is currently at OTJAG per an update I got today....

Thanks for the update! The G1 site still hasn't reflected any status changes!

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Yes you should?????

"when in rome"...yes go ahead?

I was informed by our G1 that U10-17 was approved, effective 05 JAN 2018. Also, NGB FED REC section, mentioned that they had received the signed copy yesterday and were trying to publish the orders. Once published I-PERMs should update in about 48 hours

CW5 (Join to see) - "Pushed U06-17" ....Excellent bullet point, instant "Above Center Mass" rating, hahaha

Any word on U11-17? Tracker has it at 216 day and still in JAG... since August..

From the evidence thus far, I am inferring that a chain of events at the NGB caused FY17 to be one of the worst years for the FedRec process, but then again I am merely making an observation. It would require an investigation of previous FYs to run a comparison, but to have scrolls sitting at 300-days or more is clearly an indicator that something is amiss in the NGB.

CW4(P) (Join to see) - At least you see a change. U06-17 has been at Sec Army since last August/September. 330-days and counting.

CW4 (Join to see) - I was informed by our G1 that U10-17 was approved, effective 05 JAN 2018. Also, NGB FED REC section, mentioned that they had received the signed copy yesterday and were trying to publish the orders. Once published I-PERMs should update in about 48 hours

Awesome news Travis! It'll be great to finally have something other than the scroll to talk about.
Good luck to all the other scroll's out there, hopefully they get cleaned up soon!

Status updated and orders in my iperms. Promotion has an effective date of 5JAN2018.
248 days on the scroll + 120 days early submittal = 368 days. I guess it could have been worse; glad the wait is over!

My orders are dated 27 June so I'm right there with you. I say we do the backdate DOR to where we would have been in the event it takes too long and it sets us back a year promotion wise

well, its day 122 and we've moved into the red. Maybe I'll get promoted to CPT when I retire in a few years.

136 days still at JAG.

Weve been at JAG for over 100 days now.

Congrats man! That's big time right there. You are almost at 03-17 level.

I'm going to make a FedRec tab to wear on my uniform. Or, perhaps suggest that this accomplishment goes on my next OER.

MAJ (Join to see) - Ok. When I typed that, I was pretty sure you were on a "P" list. Since all NG WOs are unit vacancy promos, thats what the "U" is for. Didnt know if RLOs that were UV promo were different than DA select. Havent had much need over the years to learn about your promotion system....

CW5 (Join to see) - Thanks for clearing some of that up. So all Army Officers are going through this vetting process. So is the Air National Guard, they are just more efficient, because the promotions I have seen from them take about 4 months. While I think vetting is a good thing, I think it is terrible for the individual officers to absorb the effects. Correct me if I am wrong, our promotions are not backdated for Time In Grade or pay purposes? So the date of rank on my state promotion orders of 1 FEB don't really mean anything, because I haven't been 'screened.' Fast forward in an unchanged system, what happens after 3 or 4 promotions with a year of processing time each? Someone is potentially retiring a grade less than they otherwise would have. Sure, a CW4 or MAJ may not make as much noise about it. This change happened just last year, and how many more promotions do they have to go? Contrast that with a 1LT or CW2...losing potentially multiple years of TIG is a big deal when you are with the Army for the long haul. Not to mention the thousands of dollars lost...I don't need to explain that, everyone hates losing money. If the Army wants to vet us cool, but back date us is my take.

I agree 100%. We should be back dated to our state's date of rank. I don't care necessarily about back pay but for TIG for future advancement.

In some cases, ABCMR has changed DOR when there were extenuating circumstances. It doesn't happen often tho and doesn't change for pay. It must be extreme and outside of your control tho (dont ask me what 'extreme' is).
Thinking back, its interesting that in the old days, at least for WOs, our DOR was backdated to State Orders date, including for pay. In 2012, my last promotion was backdated to the date FedRec was approved, but even back then, it only took a little more than 2 months from State board. Back then, I believe CNGB was delegated FedRec approval authority. In 2007, it took a little more than a month.
Again, for WOs, there has been a change since 2012 that now requires SecDef approval (delegated from POTUS) on FedRec orders.

So 2 more months from NOV 16, that is awesome. Especially with the fact that the last scroll approved was back in AUG.

Does anyone know the story on that? As far as I have heard no scrolls have been published for 4 months....what is happening?

I don't what's been happening, but I can comment on the effect....This entire process is destroying morale. I have friends on U06-17, U10-17, U11-17. All of us have earned our promotions. We are being punished for the misdeeds of a few....The FED REC process in it's current form needs to end.....

CW4(P) (Join to see) - I agree 100%. That was one of the first lessons I had in leadership as a young SPC. Don't mess with people's pay and promotions...it absolutely destroys morale and turns good Soldiers into bitter Soldiers. Apparently that lesson missed those of the Fed Rec process. The only good thing for me is that my ADOS orders have ended, so I am no longer doing the job of an O3 full time for the pay of an O2.

At 200+ days...what's 50 more? Go on ahead, stick that knife a little deeper in our backs, then throw us under that Big Green Bus...ya know what, I need to stop...I am way too angry right now to be posting anything further.

Totally agree. And the NG wonders why they lose good officers to the reserves....

Awaiting Dir of Army Staff Appr; U06-17; 263 Days in DoD Approval cycle

CW2 (Join to see) - That's a shame. I'm sorry, Chief.

Comparatively, U06-17 is beyond the stage of dead horse, because its fossilized remains can be traced back to the Mesozoic Era when the dinosaurs roamed the earth. It is therefore likely that the fuel in my truck were as a result of the oil extracted from U06-17's fossils.

175 days today. Just sitting here... waiting since last October. Might as well get going on my packet for CPT. How many days is U06-17 at?