Posted on Sep 8, 2016
Why is there such a long wait for reserve component officer and warrant federal recognition/promotion?
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Can anyone tell me why the process takes so long for RC officer/warrant promotions to run through the FedRec cycle? I'm an ARNG officer and I've had my state promotion orders for CPT since the middle of April. I've been tracking my packet on the ARNG-G1 website and it was awaiting addition to a scroll until a month ago and last week the scroll was ready to start the approval DoD cycle. Thoughts?
Edited 9 y ago
Posted 9 y ago
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As of 31 JUL 2020
L02-20 - Adverse Actions
L03-20 - Adverse Actions
PL18-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL19-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL20-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL21-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL07-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Office of the SecDef
U(d)18-20 - Adverse Actions
U12-20 - Office of the SecDef
U13-20 - Office of the SecDef
U14-20 - Office of the SecArmy
U15-20 - Adverse Actions
U16-20 - Adverse Actions
U17-20 - Adverse Actions
U19-20 - Adverse Actions
L02-20 - Adverse Actions
L03-20 - Adverse Actions
PL18-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL19-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL20-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL21-20 - Office of the SecDef
PL22-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL05-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL06-20 - Office of the SecDef
SL07-20 - Adverse Actions
U(d)11-20 - Office of the SecDef
U(d)18-20 - Adverse Actions
U12-20 - Office of the SecDef
U13-20 - Office of the SecDef
U14-20 - Office of the SecArmy
U15-20 - Adverse Actions
U16-20 - Adverse Actions
U17-20 - Adverse Actions
U19-20 - Adverse Actions
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CPT Griff Tatum Yea that’s frustrating seeing as in U11-20... and U12-20 published
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U12-20 has not published - its 121 days in cycle.. or if it has there has been no notice of it happening.
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CPT Griff Tatum
CW3 (Join to see) - According to her out of office reply U12-20 has published. It might take some time (24-48) to see an order.
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CPT Griff Tatum - you'll have to email me or hit me up on teams to explain her "out of office reply". but if that's the case - the YEAH!! maybe... 123 days
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As of 19Jul
# on Scroll # of Days Current Status As of:
First Lieutenant Promotions
L02-19 552 ? OSD 12 JUL 19
L03-19 620 ? OTJAG/Adv 25 JUN 19
Presidential Scrolls (CPT-LTC)
P11-19 51 123 OSD 19 JUN 19
P13-19 49 81 OSD 10 JUL 19
P15-19 50 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P16-19 51 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P17-19 50 35 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P18-19 47 31 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P19-19 47 25 OTJAG 25 JUN 19
P20-19 67 2 OTJAG/Adv 18 JUL 19
Senate Scrolls (COL)
S03-19 12 123 OSD 14 JUN 19
S04-19 12 107 OSD 19 JUN 19
S05-19 19 51 OSD 12 JUL 19
S06-19 12 0 OTJAG 19 JUL 19
CW2 Scrolls
U(d) 09-19 110 122 OSD 12 JUL 19
U(d) 14-19 151 24 OTJAG/Adv 21 JUN 19
Warrant Officer Scrolls (CW3-CW5)
U11-19 76 85 OSD 14 JUN 19
U12-19 63 59 OTJAG 17 JUN 19
U13-19 50 46 OTJAG/Adv 3 JUL 19
U15-19 55 16 OTJAG 5 JUL 19
U16-19 54 4 OTJAG/Adv 15 JUL 19
All previous scrolls approved
# on Scroll # of Days Current Status As of:
First Lieutenant Promotions
L02-19 552 ? OSD 12 JUL 19
L03-19 620 ? OTJAG/Adv 25 JUN 19
Presidential Scrolls (CPT-LTC)
P11-19 51 123 OSD 19 JUN 19
P13-19 49 81 OSD 10 JUL 19
P15-19 50 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P16-19 51 51 OSD 10 JUL 19
P17-19 50 35 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P18-19 47 31 OTJAG 20 JUN 19
P19-19 47 25 OTJAG 25 JUN 19
P20-19 67 2 OTJAG/Adv 18 JUL 19
Senate Scrolls (COL)
S03-19 12 123 OSD 14 JUN 19
S04-19 12 107 OSD 19 JUN 19
S05-19 19 51 OSD 12 JUL 19
S06-19 12 0 OTJAG 19 JUL 19
CW2 Scrolls
U(d) 09-19 110 122 OSD 12 JUL 19
U(d) 14-19 151 24 OTJAG/Adv 21 JUN 19
Warrant Officer Scrolls (CW3-CW5)
U11-19 76 85 OSD 14 JUN 19
U12-19 63 59 OTJAG 17 JUN 19
U13-19 50 46 OTJAG/Adv 3 JUL 19
U15-19 55 16 OTJAG 5 JUL 19
U16-19 54 4 OTJAG/Adv 15 JUL 19
All previous scrolls approved
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CPT (Join to see) - You're welcome. The newest update was 8 Aug and your scroll is still OTJAG. If you want to check, search for Ricci Moore on the global email. When you put her name in the to box, an automatic reply will show up with the status of all scrolls. My scroll published so I don't anticipate being present on this site as often.
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Just checked and PL9-19 has been approved. Congratulations to all of my fellow officers on that scroll. It's been frustrating that the scroll was up at OSD for 2 1/2 months, but we've been fortunate considering some scrolls have taken more than a year to publish.
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CH (LTC) (Join to see)
30 MAY 2019 is my effective date, it's sitting in my IPERMS this morning. PL9-19
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I have a reliable connection that has good intel from NGB. He mentioned that PL9-19, PL12-19 and PL14-19 have been published. I don't know if they are in Iperms yet though....
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I'm on 12-19, my FEDREC appeared in IPERMS on the 12th with an effective date of 18JUN19.
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MAJ (Join to see) - I don't have access to my mil email. If you do,To get the most up to date list open up a new message in your enterprise email. locate and add "Moore, Ricci" in the to line. Do not actually send the email. if you do this after work hours an away message will pop up on your screen. It'll have the most recent update
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Update as of 28 June 2019:
PL08-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL09-19 - OSD (Yes scrolls are out of order)
PL10-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL11-19 - OSD
PL12-19 - OSD
PL13-19 - VCSA
PL14-19 - OSD
PL15-19 - ASA
PL16-19 - ASA
PL17-9 - OTJAG
PL18-19 - OTJAG
PL19-19 - Averse Screening
SL03-19 - OSD
SL04-19 - OSD
SL05-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - OSD
U07-19 - OSD
U08-19 - OSD
U(d)9-19 - ASA
U10-19 - OSD
U11-19 - OSD
U12-19 - OTJAG
U13-19 - OTJAG
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
PL08-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL09-19 - OSD (Yes scrolls are out of order)
PL10-19 - Check iPERMS for Orders
PL11-19 - OSD
PL12-19 - OSD
PL13-19 - VCSA
PL14-19 - OSD
PL15-19 - ASA
PL16-19 - ASA
PL17-9 - OTJAG
PL18-19 - OTJAG
PL19-19 - Averse Screening
SL03-19 - OSD
SL04-19 - OSD
SL05-19 - Adverse Screening
U06-19 - OSD
U07-19 - OSD
U08-19 - OSD
U(d)9-19 - ASA
U10-19 - OSD
U11-19 - OSD
U12-19 - OTJAG
U13-19 - OTJAG
U(d)14-19 - Adverse Screening
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CH (LTC) (Join to see)
It's just a rough guide. P09-19 has been sitting at final stage OSD for 6-7 weeks.
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I checked last night and they were still showing the last update from 7 JUN 19. Has anyone from P08-19 seen anything in their iPerms?
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CPT (Join to see)
Potentially 11 scrolls could be published in JUL (looking at the list from 7JUN) ? At least this is what I'm telling myself as I'm on P13-19
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MAJ (Join to see)
Outstanding and Congratulations! Hopefully that means there's forward progress with the OSD.
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1LT(P) (Join to see)
Thanks! Definitely makes that overseas pay nicer... Hopefully the other OSD folks can get done soon!
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Update, folks. What's up with PL04-19? Things seemed to move fairly quickly for a few scrolls prior, but now things seem stalled. I'm on PL05-19, and hoping by end of April!
L01-19: Published
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
PL06-19 - JAG
PL07-19 - JAG
PL08-19 - JAG
SL06-18 - OSD (out of order)
SL01-19 - Published
SL02-19 - Published
U05-19 - Published
U01-19 - OSD
U02-19 - Published
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 CSA
U06-19 - JAG
As of 11 March
L01-19: Published
PL04-19 - CSA
PL05-19 - CSA
PL06-19 - JAG
PL07-19 - JAG
PL08-19 - JAG
SL06-18 - OSD (out of order)
SL01-19 - Published
SL02-19 - Published
U05-19 - Published
U01-19 - OSD
U02-19 - Published
U03-19 - CSA
U04-19 CSA
U06-19 - JAG
As of 11 March
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CPT (Join to see) - Yeah... I'm wondering what's up with your scroll? I know that they used to hold things up if there was an issue with a single person--not sure if that's the case now. But just looking at previous posts and times, I'm hoping we both get sent to OSD near the same time.
There isn't an update posted today, but expect one to come Monday.
There isn't an update posted today, but expect one to come Monday.
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I am also on PL 05-19 I am really hoping before the end of April as we have our first AT
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P05-19 / My state orders posted on Nov 15th any update on the tracker? mine just says scroll created 0 days in process
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Hope this is "better late than never"...
Our reports have not been sent out as frequently as the past. Not sure what that means...
Our reports have not been sent out as frequently as the past. Not sure what that means...
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A little movement on U10-18 today. "Awaiting Off of Sec of Defense approval; U10-18; 165 Days in DoD Approval cycle"
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CPT (Join to see) - This I believe passed this summer:
https://shea-porter.house.gov/media/in-the-news/national-guard-promotion-provision-makes-it-house-ndaa
I'm am of course interested in the pay as it would be a nice little bonus for me this year, but more interested in the TIG as I'm sure many other people are as well.
https://shea-porter.house.gov/media/in-the-news/national-guard-promotion-provision-makes-it-house-ndaa
I'm am of course interested in the pay as it would be a nice little bonus for me this year, but more interested in the TIG as I'm sure many other people are as well.

National Guard promotion provision makes it into House NDAA
National Guard officers just got a lot closer to receiving backdated pay for long promotion waits.
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MAJ (Join to see) - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/senate-bill/2801/text Not yet. One day, but none of us will have benefited from it.

Text - S.2801 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): National Guard Promotion Accountability Act
Text for S.2801 - 115th Congress (2017-2018): National Guard Promotion Accountability Act
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WOW! I am a P11-18 and we just got ours published at around day 110'ish (Published 10-19-2018) (around 150'ish if you count the days it didn't tick). Congrats to my fellow scrollmates and Godspeed to the subsequent scrolls! May your venture on the promo-scroll be short lived!
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MAJ (Join to see)
Hi Randall, did she give you a status update when you called? Thank you!
EDITED: nevermind, i found the show additional comments button and saw your previous comment. thank you!
EDITED: nevermind, i found the show additional comments button and saw your previous comment. thank you!
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Any P10-18ers see any change? The G1 tracker still shows us at DMPM, I know this never gets updated. From the above post does anyone know how long it can be if we're at CSA?
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MAJ (Join to see)
There has not been an update on the G1 tracker since at least Wednesday of last week for P10-18. I tried looking at the various charts provided in this thread, its really sporadic on when a scroll moves from step to step.
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I'm here to check on scrolls and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of bubblegum.
Anyone have any updates? This thread has gotten a little stale since CW5 Bruce B. promoted. P10-18 is showing 120 days. What scrolls are longer than 120?
Anyone have any updates? This thread has gotten a little stale since CW5 Bruce B. promoted. P10-18 is showing 120 days. What scrolls are longer than 120?
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L02-18 has been sitting idle for five or six weeks now. Awaiting Asst Sec Army, Man, Res Affairs. 182 Days in DoD Approval cycle
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Does anyone know what all the different types of scrolls are designated for? There are "P", "L", "D", "S", and "U".
This is my best guess, please correct me if I'm wrong:
L = 1LT
P = CPT-LTC
S = COL-LTG
D = CW2
U = CW3-CW5
If scrolls starting with "L" are just for promotion to 1LT, there are a lot of people in those scrolls. Last year, there were 16 "P" scrolls. Since there are only 4 "L" scrolls per year, I assume that means there could be up to four times the number of people in "L" scrolls than there are in "P" scrolls. I don't see the "L" scrolls move four times slower, so that's positive.
This is my best guess, please correct me if I'm wrong:
L = 1LT
P = CPT-LTC
S = COL-LTG
D = CW2
U = CW3-CW5
If scrolls starting with "L" are just for promotion to 1LT, there are a lot of people in those scrolls. Last year, there were 16 "P" scrolls. Since there are only 4 "L" scrolls per year, I assume that means there could be up to four times the number of people in "L" scrolls than there are in "P" scrolls. I don't see the "L" scrolls move four times slower, so that's positive.
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MAJ (Join to see)
P10-18 was behind P09-18 by 19 days. P09-18 got approved about 23 days ago...not sure what's the hold up on P10-18
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MAJ (Join to see)
P10-18 was at JAG for almost 2 month longer than P09-18. They got there about the same time in early May, but P09-18 left JAG the first week of June. P10-18 didn't move on until July 31st. My guess is that someone in our scroll needed a lot more attention at JAG.
There was a batch of 3 scrolls that were published at the same time. We barely missed that group. Now I assume we will be the old scroll in the next batch.
There was a batch of 3 scrolls that were published at the same time. We barely missed that group. Now I assume we will be the old scroll in the next batch.
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I don't want a "major shake-up", I just want to get promoted on time. My DOR is 20 July 2017 for a promotion I have yet to receive. Congrats to P07-18 and P09-18!
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/08/02/militarys-officer-promotion-system-may-see-major-shake.html
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/08/02/militarys-officer-promotion-system-may-see-major-shake.html

The Military's Officer Promotion System May See Major Shake-Up
The sometimes-rigid officer promotion system could see major shake-ups after Congress approved a series of reforms.
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Happy Anniversary to me I have passed 1 year as a 1LT Company Commander. Yes, 1 year where I cannot be a Senior Rater without having to have a supplementary reviewer. I can sign well over a million dollars worth of property and be accountable for personnel actions but I need an O3 to check my NCOER's. I have the feeling that I will do my entire command time as a 1LT but who's complaining Happy Anniversary to me!
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MAJ (Join to see)
Unfortunate part of it...worked in a Major's position for almost a year as a 1LT with all the duties and responsibilities, but none of the rank, pay, or backing to go with it.
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CPT(P) (Join to see)
It was about time. Does anyone know how much will it take until we get the back pay?
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CPT (Join to see)
If I remember correctly from my promotion to 1LT, I think I saw an LES for backpay a week or two after FedRec.
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CPT (Join to see)
What site are you pulling this info? I'm on P09-18 and curious where I sit as I'm 80 days into the process.
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That looks like DPRO. Theres also the career tracker site, which seems to be down today...
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MAJ (Join to see)
CW5 (Join to see) - Correct. DPRO in the G1 portal. Have to request access, have RCAS, etc. etc. It is handy for other things as well
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CPT Griff Tatum
Thanks! We spent only 17 days at SECDEF but we were over the 300 day mark so I’m sure that’s one of the reasons we didn’t spend 28-60 days at SECDEF like some I know.
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CW2 (Join to see)
Fingers crossed I don't spend too long at SECDEF! Hopefully the next time we scroll they will have the process fixed.
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