Posted on Jun 6, 2019
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I failed my APFT & Height/weight yesterday morning. Long story short, my APFT I was not worried about just had a bad morning (the runs) but my height/weight is what’s worrying me. I was on the ABC program last year and got of it in November 2018. Well I know in the regulations it states that I can not be back on it within 12 months or else initiation to separate will begin.

What will actually happen?
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There is the regulation and there is reality. Reality is that units have different standards for this. Combat Realted MOS's like Infantry, Airborne, Air Assualt, Spec OPS etc. are usually much harder on their Soldiers when it comes to the APFT & Height/Weight...Take it from someone who has struggled through their entire career. The BLUF is the Command will initiate a separation, but this doesn't mean they will separate you. Most Commander's and 1SGs are reasonable and most will help you, BUT YOU MUST SHOW INITIATIVE and ACCOUNTABILITY....One short story, On my first day of Command I had two separation packets on my desk...both were for Chapter 18 (HT/WT Standards Chapter)...I didn't feel comfortable signing them until I got the historic information from the 1SG and their PSGs...after I had a talk with each of them...in this case the Soldiers were not motivated to succeed...and had been in the program for 18 months!!!! with little or no progress...One was a SGT and the other a SPC...I really didn't want to separate them, as MEDICs they did their jobs well but that wasn't enough to keep them...18 months is too long in my opinion...and Infantry Commander would separate after 2 months of non-compliance which is what the regulation states. I would never separate anyone that is making progress 3-8 LBS a month (was the reg during my time). Just be also aware that you are flagged during the time your in the program...as a PFC..you should do everything in your power to reach for SPC!!! So get it going! Don't whine, Don't Complain...Just do it! I would also get another Soldier or you 1ST Line Supervisor to help you out!. Good Luck!
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MSG Tom Yuppa
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Good leadership will look at the total soldier and take all into consideration.
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You know the reg so what's the question? Whether or not your unit follows through is a discussion between you and your commander.
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Well my sole question is, am I screwed? But I appreciate your answer thank you.
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SSG Brian G.
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PFC (Join to see) - What MSG Luke Bradshaw is saying is that yes, you could be screwed or no, you could not be. That it is a command decision. You need to go have a heart to heart with your commander. You commander ultimately is the one who will decide whether you stay in the Army or not so you had best impress the hell out of him.
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What will happen is the Commander has to initiate the Chapter. There is no room for maneuver on that. Now, that being said...if you bust your ass off and drop the weight and inches and make pass Ht/Wt again, the Commander does have the option to request the Chapter be rescinded.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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MSG (Join to see) The commander is SUPPOSED to initiate the Chapter. I've been in units that didn't follow it.
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SGM Steve Wettstein - Very true. And ditto.
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