Posted on Aug 14, 2020
Will not being allowed to get a security clearance stop me from going Airborne? If I serve without any bad conduct, could I qualify?
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I've taken my Asvab and scored a 56 with a 108GT which seems average I guess. I'm looking into 11x option 4. Back in 2016 I received 1 resisting arrest charge which is now considered a Major Misconduct coupled with a petty theft, I'll need a complex package waiver now to join. I want airborne more than anything, will me now not being allowed to get a security clearance stop this? Also, if I serve without any bad conduct in my future could a qualify for a Security Clearance? I want 37f. Does 14p need 1?
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You don’t need a clearance to go Airborne, especially as an 11X. You may still be eligible for a clearance after a full investigation but you won’t be eligible for an interim clearance with those charges.
37F and 14P both require a clearance. You could very easily be eligible for a clearance down the road
37F and 14P both require a clearance. You could very easily be eligible for a clearance down the road
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I don’t know, but feel that sometimes moods need to be lightened.
With that said, my guess is no. Because it’s it in the song:
“Mission top secret destination unknown , we don’t know if we’re coming home”.
With that said, my guess is no. Because it’s it in the song:
“Mission top secret destination unknown , we don’t know if we’re coming home”.
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Well if being physical and prone to fighting is part of your personality, you'll fit right into the infantry lol. 11 series was not too long ago to 11X. Pretty much they'll put you where they need you in the infantry, could be a grunt or could be a mortard. Like said with the clearance, it just depends on the person looking over your background. I had several public disturbance charges etc. and still managed to get a top secret. If you can't get one and go into the 11 series, you'll more than likely end up with one anyways, most of the time without applying for it, due to necessity of man power.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
Alvin Geroy - If you're not eligible for a Secret then your recruiter shouldn't even be having you fill out a SF86.
You're not going to get 37F or any MOS that requires a clearance if you aren't eligible for it. Period. If any recruiter puts you in for any MOS requiring a clearance despite you not being eligible to get one, they're wrong.
I don't know what "major misconduct" even means. In all my years of security management I have not seen that. There are certain things that they will deny a clearance for - and criminal history is one. If you already know it precludes you from a clearance you won't get one now.
You're not going to get 37F or any MOS that requires a clearance if you aren't eligible for it. Period. If any recruiter puts you in for any MOS requiring a clearance despite you not being eligible to get one, they're wrong.
I don't know what "major misconduct" even means. In all my years of security management I have not seen that. There are certain things that they will deny a clearance for - and criminal history is one. If you already know it precludes you from a clearance you won't get one now.
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
SGT Justin Anderson - "If you can't get one and go into the 11 series, you'll more than likely end up with one anyways, most of the time without applying for it, due to necessity of man power."
Wrong. In fact, DoD CAF is going through anyone with a TS or Secret and seeing who actually needs it for their job or MOS and who doesn't because they've realized they issued far too many. Like people who got a TS for a position, left the position and still have it.
They are going to audit clearances and anyone who doesn't need it for a MOS or position will have their clearance removed.
They're not just handing out any clearances like candy anymore.
Wrong. In fact, DoD CAF is going through anyone with a TS or Secret and seeing who actually needs it for their job or MOS and who doesn't because they've realized they issued far too many. Like people who got a TS for a position, left the position and still have it.
They are going to audit clearances and anyone who doesn't need it for a MOS or position will have their clearance removed.
They're not just handing out any clearances like candy anymore.
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SGT Justin Anderson
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff No offense, but take it easy there chief. I've been out for awhile and things obviously change for needs of the army. It's from my known knowledge, once I'm out I don't bother to keep up with what's new or changing.
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Alvin Geroy
All I know is I have a resist arrest charge and they are saying without a waiver it is an automatic no go. They filed a complex package and said it takes 2 week's to a few months to receive the verdict. From my understanding the military looks at certain criminal offenses worse than others. I've never had a speeding ticket or anything. Weed or ant drug related charge is considered a ban for life with no waiver, my charge of resist is a ban for life if my waiver gets denied, they consider these major misconducts. I was told that if my waiver is approved, I will not qualify for a secret clearance upon elistment, but my recruiter says later down the road ill qualify more than likely. My main concern was would this initially prevent me from doing an option 4.
I would had enjoyed trying to pass the dlab and going 37f if possible, but from my understanding thats out of my picture. I'm just confused on a few things, like with needing this waiver and getting approved why cant I get a secret? Why is infantry alright but other things I scored for aren't? I was also told needing this waiver, ill no longer get a +2% tape approval and I'll need to be 26% bmi, I'm at 27% so I just have to drop 5-10lbs, still confusing.
I would had enjoyed trying to pass the dlab and going 37f if possible, but from my understanding thats out of my picture. I'm just confused on a few things, like with needing this waiver and getting approved why cant I get a secret? Why is infantry alright but other things I scored for aren't? I was also told needing this waiver, ill no longer get a +2% tape approval and I'll need to be 26% bmi, I'm at 27% so I just have to drop 5-10lbs, still confusing.
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