Posted on Jun 4, 2021
Will OSUT/AIT get you in shape in preperation for RASP, or is it ideal to delay enlistment until one is capable of crushing the APFT?
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Hello everyone, My name is Anthony...I currently reside in the good ole sunshine state! (Florida)
Currently my occupation is a Framing Carpenter, I've decided to take the next step and begin the process of enlisting into the Army...
Still in the early stages of enlistment..AFQT scores scores are 76 AFQT, GT 123,
APFT scores:
57 push ups (79 points)
59 sit ups (72 points)
2MR. 16:27 ( 60 points)
Total APFT score (211)
The ultimate goal is attend RASP and to earn the right to become apart of the 75th Ranger Regiment.
However as of right now their are no contracts available that guarantee Airborne slots (Option 4)
I'm aware of the option 40 that guarantees a slot in airborne school AFTER RASP.
Will OSUT/AIT get you in shape in preperation for RASP? or is it ideal to delay the enlistment process entirely and go in when one is capable of crushing the APFT?
I know there is much work to be done...average is unacceptable and the maximum is the minimum...I plan to utilize this site along with the wealth of wisdom provided by the Veterans on this site.
Currently my occupation is a Framing Carpenter, I've decided to take the next step and begin the process of enlisting into the Army...
Still in the early stages of enlistment..AFQT scores scores are 76 AFQT, GT 123,
APFT scores:
57 push ups (79 points)
59 sit ups (72 points)
2MR. 16:27 ( 60 points)
Total APFT score (211)
The ultimate goal is attend RASP and to earn the right to become apart of the 75th Ranger Regiment.
However as of right now their are no contracts available that guarantee Airborne slots (Option 4)
I'm aware of the option 40 that guarantees a slot in airborne school AFTER RASP.
Will OSUT/AIT get you in shape in preperation for RASP? or is it ideal to delay the enlistment process entirely and go in when one is capable of crushing the APFT?
I know there is much work to be done...average is unacceptable and the maximum is the minimum...I plan to utilize this site along with the wealth of wisdom provided by the Veterans on this site.
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United States Army Airborne School
Ranger Assessment and Selection Program (RASP)
United States Army Airborne School Ranger Assessment and Selection Program (RASP)
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Don't worry about any of that, just join, spend your tiny amount of free time doing extra PT and volunteer for RASP as soon as you can. RASP isn't about being in shape and there isn't a man alive who can crush it. It's about seeing who will keep going when their body quits and their brain is screaming at them to quit and you can't think past the fog of every fiber of your body being in pain and exhaustion. If you pass RASP, after you get to your new unit, your new Team Leader will make you Ranger Strong
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Anthony C.
My biggest fear is ending up in the 'Big Army' though its not the end of the world to end up in a regular unit like the 82nd, but the 75th is in my heart.
Perhaps I will heed your advice and just join. Only thing that concerns me is the running, especially the 5 miler in under 40 minutes.
As I told my recruiter who told me to pick the top 5 jobs I would want...(Respectfully) I responded that I want to join the Army to be an infantryman or one that saves infantryman(s) lives.
And what better way to get your career started than the 75th Ranger Regiment?
Perhaps I will heed your advice and just join. Only thing that concerns me is the running, especially the 5 miler in under 40 minutes.
As I told my recruiter who told me to pick the top 5 jobs I would want...(Respectfully) I responded that I want to join the Army to be an infantryman or one that saves infantryman(s) lives.
And what better way to get your career started than the 75th Ranger Regiment?
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SFC (Join to see)
Anthony C. if you can't handle the Big Army then you can't handle Ranger Regiment. If you're entering the Army with the misperception that you're going straight to Ranger Regiment, you need to get comfortable with the reality that 90% of those Option 40 candidates won't make it. Of the people who don't drop in Basic, Airborne, and RASP holdover, less than a third will pass RASP. Of those, another third won't make it past a year or two in the Regiment. Those who do stay will eventually leave in order to get promoted. Almost everyone in the 75th will eventually leave, except the few who go into Special Missions Units like Delta.
For your run time, after months of OSUT, weeks of holdover for RASP, and two more months of RASP, if you can't pass the run time then, you'll never pass it. Chances are you'll be running a sub 7 minute mile at that point. That's 30 weeks of training bare minimum. If after 30 weeks of running several days a week, PT every day, and your nutrition being managed, you still can't run a sub 8 minute mile, it's never going to happen.
For your run time, after months of OSUT, weeks of holdover for RASP, and two more months of RASP, if you can't pass the run time then, you'll never pass it. Chances are you'll be running a sub 7 minute mile at that point. That's 30 weeks of training bare minimum. If after 30 weeks of running several days a week, PT every day, and your nutrition being managed, you still can't run a sub 8 minute mile, it's never going to happen.
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You couldn't get an Option 4 as an 11B? I would tell them I am just going to wait, it sometimes brings about miracles and a slot opens up. That isn't the case with Opt40, which you don't need to apply for RASP anyway.
If you go in to 11B OSUT scoring 211 on the APFT, you will be in better shape when you finish. I went through the old RIP for Officers back in the 80's, I agree with SFC Boyd, nothing really prepares you for the physical exhaustion, lack of sleep and lack of food. RIP was only a bit over 2 weeks! You just put your head down and keep going when what you really want to do is lay down and curl up in a ball and quit.
If you go in to 11B OSUT scoring 211 on the APFT, you will be in better shape when you finish. I went through the old RIP for Officers back in the 80's, I agree with SFC Boyd, nothing really prepares you for the physical exhaustion, lack of sleep and lack of food. RIP was only a bit over 2 weeks! You just put your head down and keep going when what you really want to do is lay down and curl up in a ball and quit.
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SFC Jeremy Boyd
Anthony C. going to another Army recruiter won't make a difference if there are no 11X vacancies with Option 4 or Option 40. Individual recruiters and recruiting stations have zero control over that, as whatever is available on FSR2S at the day and time a recruiter checks it is what EVERY Active Duty Army recruiter in the country is able to see and potentially lock in for their applicant.
Having been a recruiter for a number of years before retiring, yours is definitely not wrong in saying it is fairly easy to obtain Airborne School slots when you're already in, especially for 11 series. Representatives from the Airborne School often go to OSUT companies and seek out volunteers to attend the school who did not receive it in their contract, at least they used to.
Having been a recruiter for a number of years before retiring, yours is definitely not wrong in saying it is fairly easy to obtain Airborne School slots when you're already in, especially for 11 series. Representatives from the Airborne School often go to OSUT companies and seek out volunteers to attend the school who did not receive it in their contract, at least they used to.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SFC Jeremy Boyd - Have you ever seen a time when the Army wasn't recruiting 11B's? My ASVAB score was a bit better than Anthony's, not by much since his is enough to qualify for any job also, and none of the jobs offered to me were 11B. I understand why, the next 30 guys walking in the door will probably be able to enlist 11B and he was trying to file all those hard to qualify for slots. I just refused and said I would wait. By some "miracle", an 11B slot opened up the next day.
I agree with his mentor, get it in your contract if that is what you want to do in the Army.
I agree with his mentor, get it in your contract if that is what you want to do in the Army.
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SFC Jeremy Boyd
CPT Lawrence Cable there were times when I didn't see 11X slots available for periods of time, simply because like any other MOS there points in time when 11B and 11C are near, at or overstretch, though not commonly. The point I was making is that unlike Ranger School or SF training, Airborne School is relatively easy to come by for most any active duty Soldiers, especially Combat MOS. The majority of Soldiers in the Army that have their jump wings never had the School in their contracts, but rather put together the School packet and went that way. I'd dare say in the case of Airborne School it's as easy, if not easier, to go that route than waiting for it to be contractually available. For the purposes of being directly assigned to an Airborne unit I would agree that having Option 4 in the contract would be the best route. I guess having been on both the operational side and recruiting side of the Army I've had the chance to see what's worth waiting for in the enlistment contract and what's more of a "six of one, half a dozen of the other" approach to getting the desired qualification.
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The duration of both training periods affords you fitness. OSUT will provide you with a solid foundation, during AIT you will have time in the evenings and on weekends to advance your fitness level. Just make sure you are complimenting your organizational fitness and not overworking any body parts lending to injury. Be smart you have time.
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