Posted on Jun 3, 2015
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Odierno said the standards for Ranger School will not change.
"We've set standards for Ranger School for a very long time," he said. "I'm adamant about maintaining that. I do believe it's important we maintain the integrity of the Ranger tab."
Opinion: It’s time to reevaluate standards for women in the military
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/04/16/opinion-its-time-to-reevaluate-standards-for-women-in-the-military/
All 8 women fail Ranger School: Some Rangers say standards should change
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0529/All-8-women-fail-Ranger-School-Some-Rangers-say-standards-should-change-video
What are your thoughts?
"We've set standards for Ranger School for a very long time," he said. "I'm adamant about maintaining that. I do believe it's important we maintain the integrity of the Ranger tab."
Opinion: It’s time to reevaluate standards for women in the military
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2015/04/16/opinion-its-time-to-reevaluate-standards-for-women-in-the-military/
All 8 women fail Ranger School: Some Rangers say standards should change
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Military/2015/0529/All-8-women-fail-Ranger-School-Some-Rangers-say-standards-should-change-video
What are your thoughts?
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As a recently retired guy that attended the 1st easy class of Ranger School back in 1996, the standards have changed, and will continue to change to help meet the political agenda. Make the male standard, the only standard in the Army. It is the only way to make sure standards are not lowered to give everyone a participation trophy. The 1st 14 years of my career were in Infantry units. The last 13 years were in Special Operations, and we had females on our teams. We were afforded the ability to maintain the same standards for males and females. The standards got rid of both males and females, but both males and females met the standards. We deployed together, and everyone pulled their fare share of the weight.
All that being said, I don't think there is a need for females in the Infantry, or Ranger Regiments other than some power people that are stuck on political correctness, and don't care about the negative effects. There are places in certain teams with specific missions as in my former unit. I have yet to see one good explanation of why women should be in the Infantry, or Ranger Regiment. Please, someone give me a good, tactical reason for females to be in these units.
All that being said, I don't think there is a need for females in the Infantry, or Ranger Regiments other than some power people that are stuck on political correctness, and don't care about the negative effects. There are places in certain teams with specific missions as in my former unit. I have yet to see one good explanation of why women should be in the Infantry, or Ranger Regiment. Please, someone give me a good, tactical reason for females to be in these units.
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Just as an update to this posting about the women who are now completing Ranger School....
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/it-appears-the-first-two-females-at-ranger-school-might-graduate-soon-what-questions-does-this-answer?urlhash=874137&cid=676091&utm_campaign=activity&utm_content=notifications&utm_medium=unpaid&utm_source=email
https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/it-appears-the-first-two-females-at-ranger-school-might-graduate-soon-what-questions-does-this-answer?urlhash=874137&cid=676091&utm_campaign=activity&utm_content=notifications&utm_medium=unpaid&utm_source=email
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With so many changes, including repealing "don't ask don't tell".
Wouldn't doubt it!
Wouldn't doubt it!
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Will the Army succumb to social pressure and change Ranger school standards?
NO.
NO.
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Public opinion had a great impact on implementing EO policies, SHARP, repealing DODT, and latest changes in AR 670-1. How will public opinion influence ranger, infantry, and other mostly male schools?
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SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
CW2 J A , sir, those were mostly aligned with crimes and acts that may have had a parity in civilian legal system.
Anti-rape, anti-harassment, anti-discrimination, etc. all existing laws that are/were in the books for the civilian world, so the Army matched it.
As for specific Army Schools standards, I do not think they are subject to parity with anything.
There is a standard to join the Army, females reach it and they are in.
There is a standard for Ranger School, Diver, etc., if females can reach it, they are in.
Anti-rape, anti-harassment, anti-discrimination, etc. all existing laws that are/were in the books for the civilian world, so the Army matched it.
As for specific Army Schools standards, I do not think they are subject to parity with anything.
There is a standard to join the Army, females reach it and they are in.
There is a standard for Ranger School, Diver, etc., if females can reach it, they are in.
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