Posted on Feb 27, 2021
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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Since military benefits are lost on day 61 of a criminal conviction, will we finally see the retired and/or separated insurrectionist veterans lose their retirements, GI/9-11 bills, and VA benefits and stop them leeching off a government they wanted to overturn in the first place?

In addition, will we see their respective services follow precedent and subject those retirees to Court Martials, as they are still bound by UCMJ after retirement?
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LTC Mark Marek
In a word, based on current politics, NO! That said, they MUST be stripped of all rank, benefits, and prestige... they disgraced themselves, the armed services, and their country. Their attack on the seat of government is insurrection & equates to treason. I served 30 years in the US Army, and for these fools to do this infuriates me to no end. For the record, I am not a Demo crate, not an Independent, not a Republican... what I am is a card carrying American Citizen. Period!
CPO Albert Kennison
What happened to you are innocent until proven guilty! This is still AMERICA!!!!!!!
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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That legal precept is still valid. Hence the question, IF.
SGT John Peacock
Thanks SGT Hector Rojas for helping me identify all those that need to be blocked. Sad that they put their politics over country.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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It is a sad statement indeed. My question is a valid one. Answers are equally valid when made logically, I was not expecting the loonies to come out of the woodworks, especially those still in AD.
SGT John Peacock
SGT John Peacock
3 y
Yeah well they made for a long list of ...... veterans & I use the term very loosely, that I'd rather not hear or see, not them hear or see me so I did LOTS of blocking LOL.
SSG Edward Tilton
The law provides for terminating benefits if convicted. If you plead guilty you are convicted. In some states it also requires a weapons ban
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
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That's what I've been looking at. Particularly with the Supreme Court precedent.
SSG Edward Tilton
SSG Edward Tilton
3 y
The weapons ban usually follows an involuntary commitment and a court order. I don’t believe that is necessary. Anyone diagnosed with a mental disorder has a mental disorder.
SSG James Kivel
Leave it up to the Romeo's to ask some stupid ass question...
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
And to you to answer with a non answer.
SPC Rob Durling
Maybe they weren’t “insurrectionists”, as many of you point out, and I will likely agree with you. However, if they were participating in events where they trespassed on government property, defaced or damaged said property, made criminal threats against other citizens, assaulted law enforcement and/or other American citizens, then they are certainly...well, something. Criminals at the very least. Much like many of those arrested, charged and prosecuted for their actions in other riots in the past months, the January 6th rioters should face the consequences for their actions. Insurrection? I don’t know about that; riot? Yeah, and that’s against the law.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
Fair enough, the legal precept is still valid however. If convicted of a crima (any crime related to Jan 6), as per SCOTUS, they should lose all benefits.
PO1 David M Burns
PO1 David M Burns
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Many of those arrested, charged, prosecuted? WHERE? WHEN? what state? what city? surely you jest!
SPC Rob Durling
SPC Rob Durling
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There have been scores, perhaps hundreds, arrested, charged, and prosecuted in several cities and municipalities in recent months. Sorry, Master Sergeant, but I’m not going to do all of the heavy lifting! I’m squatting and leaning against plenty of walls to keep me busy! PO1 David M Burns
PO1 David M Burns
PO1 David M Burns
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I believe the thread was talking about retirees, don't see to many old folks in the bastard filth called blm and antifa!
CPO Kurt Baschab
Are you Referring to all the Individuals that were Rioting, Looting, Burning, Down Democratic controlled City's and States though out America all though the year 2020?

I mean Seriously, After Watching a Democratic Congress women Maxine Walters going out on National TV and Radio, to tell her Democratic supporters to use Verbal and Physically Violence to run all Republican's officials and Supporters out of the state and country, and to hear no one call her out on her Bull , was just shocking!
the media would just put words in President Trumps mouth, words he never said.
it was just amazing to watch. yet Maxine can use all can of verbal violence to tell her supports to get verbally and Physically violent. to tell them they are not wanted here any more.

so are you referring to the Democratic Supporters who have continue to attacks the Federal Buildings, in Portland Oregon? where the left was trying to burn Judges and Federal Law enforcement officer alive in Portland Organ? or are you referring to the so called non attack on Jan 06, where the only INDIVDUAL SHOT AND KILLED WAS A UNARMED FEMALE PEACEFULL PROTESTER .

where no capital police officer were hurt or harmed,
at the most some slight property damage but not much compared to what the DEMOCRATIC SUPPORTERS HAVE DONE TO THE FEDERAL BUILDINGS IN OTHER DEMOCRTIC CONTROLLED CITY"S & STATES!
NO LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAD BRICKS THROWN AT THEM, HAD FIRE BOMBS THROWN AT THEM .
no, it was mostly peaceful from what I seen, but of course the Democratic Party Propaganda machine Told the American People, it was very violent,
this was IRONIC, to watch, the American News media , tell the American public, that a Conservative Protest that is truly mostly peaceful, is violent, but a democratic protest is TRULY VIOLENT, we are told is mostly Peaceful, as we watch them RIOT, LOOT, BURN DOWN A CITY, ATTACK LAW ENFOREMENT OFFICER ,and INNOCENT CITIZENS . I TRULY BELIVE I AM LIVING IN BIZARRO WORLD !
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
I'm pretty sure the 140+ officers injured during the January 6 event would disagree with your statement that there were peaceful protesters.
CPO Kurt Baschab
CPO Kurt Baschab
3 y
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA -
MY POINT IS, YOU CANNOT TRUST THE LYING, CHEATING, DECIVING AMERICAN NEWS MEDIA TO TELL THE AMERICAN PEPOLE THE TRUTH. HOW MANY TIMES DURING THE YEAR 2020 WERE WE TOLD THIS WAS A MOSTLY PEACFUL PROTEST AS THE CITY WAS BEING RIOTED, LOOTED , AND BURNED ? HOW MANY NEWS ANCHORS WERE UPSET AND OUTRAGED AT THE ATTCKES OF FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND OF THE ATTACK OF FEDERAL COURT HOUSES AND THE FEDERAL JUDGES AND OFFICER INSIDE THE BUILDING ? THE ATTEMPTED MURDER OF THESE OFFICERS AND JUDGES , THEY WERE NOT, THEY CHEERED IT ON . THEY ONLY GOT UPSET AND CONCERNED WHEN IT WAS CONSERTIVE PROTESTER , NO ONE AND I MEAN NO ONE SEEMED UP SET AT THE VIOLENCE AND DEATH THREATS TOWARDS THE TRUMP ADMINASTRATION OT HIS SUPPORTERS .
CPO Kurt Baschab
CPO Kurt Baschab
3 y
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA - I am Also Positive we are not being told the complete truth on what happen Jan 06. all during the year 2020, we had a lying democratic Propaganda machine openly lying, Cheating , spinning, and deceiving the American People, telling the American People that the Rioting , Looting, burning down of Democratic controlled city's and sates , the attacking of Innocent law abiding citizens were mostly peaceful. this was all lies, yet not one of these Individuals are being investigated , arrested or prosecuted for attacking federal law enforcement Officers or for trying to burn Federal Buildings down with federal employees inside, the only difference is that are vice President bailed the democratic supporters out of jail, and had her Newly appointed Attorney General drop the charges on the Democratic supporters.
the FBI, is not releasing any information on those constatives, and we still do not know who shot the UNARMED WHITE RETIRED AIRFOCE FEMALE CITIZEN. if she had been a democratic supporter we have a different situation, then the officer name would have all ready been released and his life ruin . the double stranded with the American news media , and criminal's justice system is just amazing to see and watch, at how successful the Democratic party was at WEAPONIZING THE FBI, CIA AND OTHER FEDERL AGENCYS . we are no longer a nation of laws, we have become a corrupt Third world nation , where the Democratic party is trying to destroy what few Freedoms we have left, to impose there SOCIALIST, COMMUNIST , MARXIST GOVERMENT.
SPC Mark Leonard
Good luck lol. Would be entertaining to watch.
SGT Reuben Barrett
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SGT Matt Tarvin
This is a huge political issue and the highest Brass of all the forces and the Pentagon are political positions whether they want to admit it or not. They will fall in line with the political desires of those in charge to either save or further their careers. It's the law of Supply and Demand. They supplied someone with a position and they demand they act accordingly.
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
SGT Hector Rojas, AIGA, SHA
3 y
Fair, but the question remains though.
If veterans act against their own government, if convicted, should they lose whatever benefits they have?

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