Posted on Sep 10, 2015
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I feel like a lot of women are wanting to go to infantry school. Just to see the Combat but mainly to see a more equal Army. I know that now woman can go to Ranger school and even the Marines have a program for women. (Similar to the Infantry lifestyle I guess) they seem to do well but with unequal standards offered by the Army will it ever be possible to even consider allowing women to go to school to become 11B?
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SFC Battalion Air Nco
I whole heartedly believe that if a person can make it through a program, they deserve to be there. I do not believe that the standards for that program should be changed to accommodate anyone though. If someone were to enter my MOS, all I care about is that they can drag me, or my battles, if we were to get hit. With that all being said, if women were to be allowed into the combat arms MOS', would women across the United States, ages 18-35, be required to sign up for selective service as well? If we're going to get rid of the gender separation in our military, we need to get rid of it altogether.

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PFC Christopher Norvick
I'm not keen on the idea as of yet. While the women in Ranger school did exceptionally well, seeing as most guys drop RIP with a fail and these women repeated to completion, the Marine trial proved that women do not generally meet the physical demands of line units. Beyond thay, not many women do want the front line. After being stationed in Korea and seeing the female soldiers become "queen for a year" there the realization that women at the forefront would be disastrous hits me. A large group of testoterone addled men and a couple of women, not looking good for the ladies. Beyond that, those with more honorable intentions may very well find themselves in difficult situations being protectorate to these young ladies in combat and against their own battle buddies. While in eventuality as new generations of soldiers filtered in and replace it may work but that starting generation would be hell. The sexually oriented crimes, verbal and physical, would be through the roof as you ask guys used to being pervs talking to other guys to watch their mouths 24/7 because a woman just joined an infantry unit.
SP5 Patrick Rita Lovell
Sgt. Glenn, I have made this same argument for 25 years, along with some physical limitation that are rarely discussed;
1.) Long duration field situations can and will effect the health of female soldiers, ie urinary tract infections due to the horribly unhygienic conditions that we experience as Infantrymen
2.) I can guarantee that a woman on her cycle would be as easy to detect as a smoker lighting a cigarette...
I also do not agree that lowering standards can ever help a fighting force
SPC Training Room Nco
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It's coming man, and that ball is already in motion. The big question is this: How can we make it an effective move? Because bringing in gender equality is great, but as long as they continue to separate the sexes, are we really equal? No. Because that mystery, and the carnal physical attraction will remain, which will subjugate the discipline and fraternity of the Infantry. And men are bred to protect the female of the species, which will compromise the mission because the female who went down can't live up to the standards of her male counterparts. And if they drop the standards for the women, then that gender separation will only widen. They are making this decision under the guise of "gender equality and equal opportunity," but in reality, is a PC move to shut people up about it. And it will take planting a Battalion size element of females before they ever realize that the decision is a bad one, and the changes will need to be made (no separation of gender, equal standards, etc.). Personally, I think the standards should remain the same unanimously. PT, height and weight, all of it. Same scale across the board. Then we will see who is really equal and who can actually handle the job.

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