Would an E9 comply if ordered to attention by an O1?

I was a seasoned NCO and rated among the best. We had a new LT. in Kuwait who just could not have any less common sense. I repeated advised that his plan of action would result in definite mission failure. He chewed my ass up and down in front of the other SQL's and I said 6 bags full charlie mike LT. Well he screwed it all up and damn near got troops killed when I told the troops to do what we had trained for. I was briefed before the AAR by the Regimental CSM. That he was going to call me out in front of the Colonel & Cdr & )-1 (both briefed by the RCSM but I did not know that) The RSCM asks me why I let a poor new 0-1 set up a mission that could cause casualities and destroy the op sec. I replied I failed Sergeant Major. The Colonel tells me to wait outside the tent and yells Bullshit Sgt that will never happen again if you want to keep that rank. I leave puzzled a bit. Then as I wait outside the tent I hear the Colonel ask the Lieutenant what he recommended. The LT threw me under the bus and said I would have taken his advice had it been offered. The Colonel then got pissed. He screamed at the LT go pack your shit, your headed stateside. I spoke to the troops you Lying bastard. That is a fine NCO. I felt like a god and then the Colonel told me never put up with any shit from a rookie. You have a problem make the choice I have your back.

The baddest CSM I knew was about 5ft 6 and the I am sure he would have come to attention, about 2 inches from the 2Lt. I once ask him why he always got that close to people and his response was, if I can make you nervous by standing close to you, what does that say about you with dealing with stress.

I was only in Army for a short while as a 2LT, then a 1LT. I never encountered a senior or mid-level NCO who showed me anything less than professional respect. I reciprocated, and everyone got along. This scenario has less to do with being an officer than it does with being a general all-around turd.

You obey orders. Its part of your oath. You might not like it but it's the rank structure.

CSM would laugh his ass off everytime

all i can sat to this is this. as a soldier/salior/airman/marine we are all taught to respect those who our rank us. respect goes up it does not have to do down. with that. yes CSM/SGM would have to go to attention address the LT apporpriately. after all is said and done. when tempers calm down, if in the same battalion meeting with the BC would be at hand to school the young officer on leadeship respect and dignity. if was a LT from another unit then there would be phone calls made. and yes PSGs train LTs 1sgt/MSG train capt. and SGM/CSM tain and work with MAJ and above. and when i say train. keep in mind that most of the times an NCO is in position for 3 to 6 years. where an officer is typically in postion for 18month so teh SGM and CSM would train thier officers on customs and practicies of the unit but also support (role of the chain of support) the chain of command once a desicion is made. now for that young LT. he will have his feelings hurt, hopefully he/she can learn from it and move on and take a positive lesson from it. now with that being said. I have seen a CPT tell the BN CSM you will do as I say when I say to do it the capt was prior enlisted, they were in a pissinig contest (jubject i can't remember) but after all cooled down you seen the two of them laughing and joking. and yes the cpt did appologize to the CSM with something to the effect of SGT MAJ, sorry about that man, i was just pissed and you caught it. they shook hands and was done.

I was carrying a couple slave cables out the front door of our armory and here comes a LTC carrying a printer( me was a PFC,oh joy). We passed each other and locked eyes, and said "Wanna forget this happened sir?" His response was " Ya damn skippy Private, carry on."

This really would depend on who was around. If it is only the 2 men, likely the younger one would get a lesson on respect for elders, followed by a build them back up moment. if it were a group of people then I would expect the E-9 to show the respect for the rank in front of him, followed by a personal meeting soon there after. E-9 get where they are because they lead by good example typically. Not to mention they have a high level of respect for the military and traditions. Ultimately the young officer would soon get a lesson in some of those traditions, the one where the salty old dog teaches officers how to be leaders of men.

The E-9 would have to comply because an officer is over an Enlisted regardless of rank. It's called respecting the rank. You don't have to respect the person but you must respect the rank.

Of course he would have to, but I'm sure afterwards the LT would be talked to about his place in the food chain.

Yes he would; and the o-1(small o) would NEVER make that mistake again. Just a personal view point from a career E-3.

Sometimes, very rarely, it is the CSM out of line, way out of line. And usually the sign of some pretty toxic leadership. When I was a young O-1, I came upon a SGM (not a CSM but still an E-9) with two of my squad leaders at parade rest screaming his head of in an unprofessional and undignified manner. I approached the SGM and asked him to step away for a second to tell me what was going on. He then tells me he doesn't have time for "my ass".

That was when I told this piece of shit "to get at attention when he talked to me" "he was welcome to call my chain of command" and in 30 words or less tell me what his issue was. Seems this his personal crusade against improperly bloused BDU pant legs, and having two junior NCOs stand at attention while he berated them in public was his idea of corrective action.

So yeah, O-1 locks up E-9.

Has too it depends on the situation if a captain / colonel walks in or a flag officer if the 01 calls for attention you snap to it as i said it depends on situation

tgechnically yes because of rank but we all know better.

I've seen it a couple of times. It's always pretty hilarious except for those rare kids who didn't quite grasp the concept. A squared away CSM is a powerful thing.

The only time that I've seen a Senior NCO deserve it was when the guy was on ROADs. Had a few of them. Even those guys, though, would rarely be so Roadied out that they'd take shit from a brand new 2LT.

2LT out ranks a CSM....

I have seen for myself an E7 put an O1 in his place. And when it was over that Smoke was walking around like it wasnt a thing. He had an ora around him like he was the next best thing to Jesus.

Had an O-1 tell other officers that my Senior Chief worked for her. She had some words for her and put her in her place lol.

He has no choice ... its in his oath of enlistment!

In the Corps once you hit Gunny I see nothing but respect from enlisted and officers as well. Those stripes come with years of dedication and hard work. From E-7 to E-9 are areas of RESPECT by all and admiration by enlisted. Semper Fi!