Posted on Sep 13, 2016
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If a fresh 2LT/ENS ordered an E9 to attention because of a disagreement, would the E9 have to comply? What would possibly happen?
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A1C Cryptologic Language Analyst
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The thing is, everyone knows who the actual BDIC here, it's the e-9. It's upon him to be magnanimous and humble with his proverbial schlong he throws around his shoulder. If the enswine or whomever tries that shit, all it would take is a private conversation after standing at attention, and coming back to the squad. Where it will be obvious the chain of command and moral unaffected
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MSgt David Hudson
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Yes by custom. Then the O5 would tell the 2LT that his next assignment would be 3 days the other side of the end of all the supply lines.
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Sgt Jason Shaw
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Just about every butter bar Lt I ever knew was intimidated by Sergeants Majors, and downright terrified of Master Gunnery Sergeants. I don't think most of the SgtsMajs and Master Gunnies I served under even acknowledged the existence of 2nd Lt's anyway.
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AN Pete Landon
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Absolutely,chain of command,
off the books touchy.
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SA Troy Wyant
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Asked that quesrion of a 01. He stated that when young people are around the E9 treated him as a superior but when just the two of them he treated the E9 as his mentor. Very classy young officer.
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SGT Stanley Bass
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I would agree with most statements below, The LT would be called LT not sir, and behind closed doors there would be some verbal counselling for sure. By the CSM of course
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SPC Randy Benetti
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Yes he would because he has respect.
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SMSgt Lonnie Backus
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Yes the military has RULES and regulations
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CW3 Property Book Officer (Pbo)
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I mean yea they would have to comply... My first deployment the command center had a 1LT(former SFC) and an SGM who didn't get along and the 1LT would lock him up all the time but justly so (the CSM often concurred). But in my opinion a 2LT shouldn't be locking up anyone unless they are brazenly and blatantly disrespected. A soldier missing a salute... Whatever. I try to avoid my CSM as a WO1 but we are always cordial to eachother but I don't ever try and get in his lane or interfere with NCO business. And I damn sure never expect a salute from my CSM nor would ever ask for one
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COL David Lahm
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Yes but as for the LT he will soon become familiar with the phrase "win the battle; lose the war"
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MSG Daniel S. Rodriguez
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YES.......like it or not. unless it's an unlawful order.
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SGT Drill Sergeant
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Um, funny story about that lol
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A1C Sean Black
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Do it unless you want to retire early...
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PFC Combat Medic
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This reminds me of a story my old man (a retired E-9) once told me. My father prepared for the day with his 0-5 in the orderly room when a young 2LT walked in a fit yelling at all my dad's PSG's. My old man looked at the 2LT and asked "Sir, do you know what the maximum effective range of a 2LT is?" As the 2LT looked back at the CSM, my dad held up his two fingers as they touched. "This far" he said "now shut the hell up and let the colonel and I handle this"
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CPT Infantry Officer
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Depends who has lost their military bearing.
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Brian Schoonmaker
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Yes
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SPC Dennis Brown
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you have to respect the rank not the person
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SSG Matthew Wolfe
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I am here to read the story.
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CSM Christopher St. Cyr
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Yes. Staff sergeants and Lieutenants run the Army. Sergeants major work for senior officers and are traditionally viewed as their representative. Life would suck for a young LT who acted disrespectfully towards his commander, even through the commander's proxy. The NCO does have a duty to comply with the orders of a commissioned officer regardless of which end of the pay scale either falls.
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SFC Randy Stoneroad
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The E-9 may comply because he/she is a seasoned professional, but the LT would likely be schooled up by his chain of command.
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