Posted on Sep 13, 2016
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If a fresh 2LT/ENS ordered an E9 to attention because of a disagreement, would the E9 have to comply? What would possibly happen?
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CW4 James Taylor
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Yes, but the LT would be ansering to a higher command.
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CSM David Byrnes
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An officer is an officer.
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LCpl Robert Jones
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According to the UCMJ and the oath, technically the E9 should. However, not too many lower echelon officers are that stupid.
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SP5 James Asel
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Yes he is suppose to but better have a sack on you to do it
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SPC Steven Seig
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He should reply but I'm sure the commander would tell that butterbar to back off
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SSG Cyber Operations Specialist
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I was walking from the LSA to work along a road we called sniper alley (for a reason) on Camp Victory Iraq back in 2003. A reserve 2LT walks pass me (a PV2 at the time), I do not slaute but instead say the greeting of the day. He stops and calls me back to him insisting a salute. I oblige and say "Roger, sniper check sir." rendering a bold and over the top salute.

Just behind him was the General and CSM. The General walks up to me with the CSM right behind him. I think I am about to get ripped apart. The General says "Did that LT just tell you to salute him?" I said yes sir. He smirked, "Fuckin Lieutenants." and walked away. The CSM patted me on the back and gave me the same smug smile and followed the General.

When I got to work I told my section who didn't believe me! But who would? If I wasn't there I wouldn't have believed it my self.
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PO2 Information Systems Technician
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An O1 (Ensign -Navy) and an E9 (Master Chief- Navy) crossed paths in a Training command; the O1 stops and sees that he wasn't saluted and Turns around to the E9 to say "excuse me Master Chief did you forget something?" , The Master chief looks back perplexed then says "Oh I suppose I did", Master Chief reaches into his pocket and pulls out a Navy Coin and Tosses it to the O1, "Here" he says!, "tell your mother you met a real sailor today!" then goes about and carries on with his day.
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MSgt Security Forces
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Well of course the E9 is going to acknowledge and abide by customs and courtesies, but I can also promise the E9 is going to be having a talk with someone else that easily out ranks that butter Bar and hinge will be very different.
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LCpl Field Radio Operator
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The other day I was walking through BN HQ and I saw this boot walking over in alphas with his firewater ribbon and shooting badge. As we crossed paths he goes, "good morning gentlemen" my buddy simply said "hey" I said "what's up man" and continued walking. Assuming he was a pvt who just got to the fleet I didn't think much of it until I looked behind me and noticed the butterbars on his shoulders. Well sir... the tables have changed lol
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SGM Human Resources Specialist
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Yes
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A1C Tony Schultz
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Yes as to it being professional, but never should someone brand new need to command someone who has been in for so long to attention, that is more abuse to power. Any enlisted will know to respect an officer, and will help guide them through their knowledge as a professional.
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SPC Bryan Krebsbach
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I knew an Lt that when asked a question about senior NCO'' needing to salute.. the Lt replied they do it outta courtesy and that they wouldn't want to piss of one...
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SSgt Coby Crewse
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I dont believe I've ever seen an O-1 stupid enough to do that l.
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SGT Nancy Page
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Nothing would happen
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SGT Aircraft Powertrain Repairer
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Yes the E9 is required to but at the same time the 2LT needs to respect that E9 because that E9 had earned his or her place and respect.
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PO2 Aviation Electrician's Mate
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In front of juniors, he would. The knife hands would come out later.
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PO3 Electrician's Mate
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As per the UCMJ he would have to, since technically a superior officer gave him an order. BUT! As an E-9, he/she has ridiculous authority and that O-1 wI'll definitely learn their place and the never fuck with an E-9 ever again lol
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CPO Steven Voigt
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I would obey the order but I would explain the facts of life to him while at attention
Did twice shortly before retirement. 2 different enswines
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SSG Eric Mohr
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Yes, but the lt would be schooled afterwards
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