Posted on Sep 13, 2016
Would an E9 comply if ordered to attention by an O1?
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My question is what would happen if an LT.tried putting the SMA at attention, that my brothers and sisters in arms would be a show
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Yes. This actually happened to me when I was a young platoon leader. The Bn CSM called for my PSG to come to a meeting when my training meeting was going in. I sent word back by the CQ runner to let the CSM know he would be there when my training meeting was over (and since my training meeting was on the CO's training calendar I was obligated to conduct it); 10 mins later the Bn CSM kicks in my platoon room door, looks at me, points to my PSG and tells him to "collect his shit and get to his office now!" Then he turns to me and starts to tell me that When he calls for his PSGs I don't stop SFC ****** from coming, and- well that's where I stopped him. I was furious. I leaped up and even today can't remember all the things that came out of my mouth. I do however remember the very first words and they were "shut the fuck up and come to the position of attention!" At first he refused, but I gave him an ultimatum... do it or I call the MPs and file an official charge of disrespect and disobeying a lawful order. He did and I ripped into him for a good 2/3 mins. I made him announce in front of my PSG and SLs that he understood that I was an officer, that I outranked him and that he was wrong for disrespecting me. He was pissed, but what he didn't know about me was I had spend nearly 8 years enlisted so I wasn't a new, green LT and had witnessed the treatment CSMs gave LTs in the pass. Yeah, of course he ran his candy ass to BC, my CO and I were in his office 20 mins later, but when I explained what went down the BC yelled at both of us for a few mins and send us packing.
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1SG Charles Simpson
My compliments to you Major, I would say you handled it like a true leader should have and that the CSM completely out of regulation in what he did. I had many rookie platoon leaders in my 28 years and I taught every one of them to first stand up for their soldiers under all circumstances and that they are never to be disrespected as a commissioned officer charged with leading our armed forces to continuing victory.
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SGM Edward Sullivan
Sir, I commend you on straightening out a very broken SGM. Respect goes both ways and I NEVER interfered with a PLatoon Leaders duties. I was a PSG for 6 years and a ISG for 5, I always had a wonderful relationship with the Junior Officers and took my role in guiding them to success very seriously. I realized early on that the Senior NCOs role was that friendly, caring guiding hand to insure the young Officers' success because if he/she failed, the Senior NCOs didn't do their job.
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I did my last 7 years at ft.benning ga with the 36th engineer group. The only time we saw our CSM was on Thursday's in the motor pool and at this he had his head so far up battalion commander ass he carried a bottle of Windex so he could clean battalion commander's stomach off so he could he see where he was going. Now I did have few good CSM in my career.
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CSM would probably comply, but that butterbar would get his ass reamed by that Battalion or Brigade XO and CO.. And that would probably be a death blow to his career for screwing with a guy that has 26 years in service, considering he probably has 2 years in as a 2LT..
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