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If a fresh 2LT/ENS ordered an E9 to attention because of a disagreement, would the E9 have to comply? What would possibly happen?
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SFC Jeffery Lee
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Of course by Army Regulation, and the Army standard that SGM/CSM always stressing to uphold, he/she should come to Attention, but you can bet your bottom dollars, that will be the last time that particular 01 losses his/her mind!!
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MAJ Jim Cook
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The E9 bring the professional that he or she should be would comply, right or wrong the 2Lt is a commissioned Officier and does out rank the E-9. I would then expect the E-9 to address the situation in a professional manner as to not cause undo embassment to him or her self or the 2Lt.
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SFC Warren Halsey
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Professional answer- Comply with this cherry officer because as Sr. NCO's it's our DUTY to teach lieutenants how to become effective leaders, and why the NCO/CPO is the backbone of the uniformed service's.

REAL WORD ANSWER/Response-In whatever terms of expression you decide, it's now time to "school" this butter bar on topics such as Rank Vs Authority; Pride and Professionalism Vs a virgin ego; Using "creative language " explain that the stripes you are wearing are embedded into your personality, and that it took you longer to earn them than the Cherry officer has time on the planet. Then, as the Echo-9, you speak with all the NCO's in the unit and explain the incident. More than likely, the end result, this cherry officer will not have any enlisted person from E-1 up respecting, trusting him, or supporting him. Lastly, if none of the above work, point blank advise the little $hit bird that in a few months you'll have made a major transition, while this dirt-bag officer will have to wallow around in his own personal $hit he just created by trying to twist the age old military phenomenon of confusing rank with authority, and who really would give a good #uck that a SGM/CSM/MCPO/CMSGT didn't snap- to for some punk-a$$, wet behind the ear's- breast milk-on the breath butter bar. Who would really give a #uck! The E9 more than likely will have between 21-30 years of service. The only thing that may possibly be said by senior ranking officers, is that maybe the E-9 was a little " too hard, or too graphic" with the butter-bar, and it might create an insecurity complex for him. Big deal!
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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No, because "what does the Lieutenant know". A chief knows! That Lieutenant is there to learn.
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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And... I wouldn't, in any case, no matter my rank, "Just Pop to attention", because of an Ensign
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock - oh , crap, it says "O-1", so... Chief => No, Me => neither :)
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SA Ron Ellis
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Yes
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MCPO Darnell Eschete
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Yes. The battle would relocate behind a closed door. E9 would win and the LT would be enlightened.
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PFC Brian Grogan
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Under UCMJ he would have to but there would Def be some major issues happening, dietary first I don't know any 2nd LT''s that would have the balks to do it but if they did I think they would have their assess handed to then and I dint know any enlisted men that would day they saw anything
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SGT Michael Dibble
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Yes unf
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SPC Julius Stacy
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He would but also not like it
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SMSgt Jesse Rocha
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Comply
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PO1 Jose Mercado
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Indeed he would out of respect, but, ohh boyyy!! He would learn a lesson afterwards that would most definetly shape him/her into becoming a great officer.
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CPO Mike Turner
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An O2 tried it on me in the ward room. After I got through chewing him out a new asshole, the Skipper had some enlightenment for him also.
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CH (CPT) Chaplain
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Only once!!! That 01 would have a very bad day!!!
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SPC Shawn Williams
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I feel that he would do the same thing that i have read in most of the responses. He would comply with the first time and then ask the officer to step into his office for a conversation. Now saying that, how the officer's response must be considered. The situation can go either North or South
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PO1 Jess Ryska
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He would, but it would be the last time it ever happened! The boot ENS/2LT would then have a come to Jesus meeting on Pecking order, respect, and who makes it possible for him to get promoted!
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SP5 Scot Alan
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Probably so, but Lt better be squared away with whatever his case is. Otherwise Top is going to eat that Lt for lunch.
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Jc Sisson
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He might be pretty cheesed, but he would comply.
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A1C Ray Lawrence
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No he would not and the little 2lt would be shoveling rubber dogshit to fly to Hong kong.
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CPO Machinist Mate (Nuclear Power)
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What jo would be stupid enough to do that? The hypothetical is funny but I couldn't see it happening
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PO1 Kevin Dougherty
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The answer would be Yes, but I would not want to be that O-1 when they were alone behind closed doors later.
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