Posted on Sep 13, 2016
Would an E9 comply if ordered to attention by an O1?
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I've seen ignorance or arrogance but that level of disrespect towards an E-9? Nope. I will watch tho, from a safe distance!
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I had an ensign tell my cmc to get to attention and cmc complied but shortly after wards the CO walked over told the cmc to carry on and proceed to destroy the 0-1. One thing you do not do in the Navy is mess with a cos cmc especially when they like them.
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He would have to comply, but his captain is going to pay for it, shit roles down hill
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He has to....but the 03 will have his ass later for the sheer disrespect to a senior enlisted
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The E9 from a professional standpoint and Army Regulations would be compelled to comply with the order.
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Got to watch this happen at nsa bahrain, right in the middle of the spine. That cmc stopped so damn fast i halted too (was walking behind him) for a hot second i thought i was in trouble too!!!
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Of course by Army Regulation, and the Army standard that SGM/CSM always stressing to uphold, he/she should come to Attention, but you can bet your bottom dollars, that will be the last time that particular 01 losses his/her mind!!
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The E9 bring the professional that he or she should be would comply, right or wrong the 2Lt is a commissioned Officier and does out rank the E-9. I would then expect the E-9 to address the situation in a professional manner as to not cause undo embassment to him or her self or the 2Lt.
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Professional answer- Comply with this cherry officer because as Sr. NCO's it's our DUTY to teach lieutenants how to become effective leaders, and why the NCO/CPO is the backbone of the uniformed service's.
REAL WORD ANSWER/Response-In whatever terms of expression you decide, it's now time to "school" this butter bar on topics such as Rank Vs Authority; Pride and Professionalism Vs a virgin ego; Using "creative language " explain that the stripes you are wearing are embedded into your personality, and that it took you longer to earn them than the Cherry officer has time on the planet. Then, as the Echo-9, you speak with all the NCO's in the unit and explain the incident. More than likely, the end result, this cherry officer will not have any enlisted person from E-1 up respecting, trusting him, or supporting him. Lastly, if none of the above work, point blank advise the little $hit bird that in a few months you'll have made a major transition, while this dirt-bag officer will have to wallow around in his own personal $hit he just created by trying to twist the age old military phenomenon of confusing rank with authority, and who really would give a good #uck that a SGM/CSM/MCPO/CMSGT didn't snap- to for some punk-a$$, wet behind the ear's- breast milk-on the breath butter bar. Who would really give a #uck! The E9 more than likely will have between 21-30 years of service. The only thing that may possibly be said by senior ranking officers, is that maybe the E-9 was a little " too hard, or too graphic" with the butter-bar, and it might create an insecurity complex for him. Big deal!
REAL WORD ANSWER/Response-In whatever terms of expression you decide, it's now time to "school" this butter bar on topics such as Rank Vs Authority; Pride and Professionalism Vs a virgin ego; Using "creative language " explain that the stripes you are wearing are embedded into your personality, and that it took you longer to earn them than the Cherry officer has time on the planet. Then, as the Echo-9, you speak with all the NCO's in the unit and explain the incident. More than likely, the end result, this cherry officer will not have any enlisted person from E-1 up respecting, trusting him, or supporting him. Lastly, if none of the above work, point blank advise the little $hit bird that in a few months you'll have made a major transition, while this dirt-bag officer will have to wallow around in his own personal $hit he just created by trying to twist the age old military phenomenon of confusing rank with authority, and who really would give a good #uck that a SGM/CSM/MCPO/CMSGT didn't snap- to for some punk-a$$, wet behind the ear's- breast milk-on the breath butter bar. Who would really give a #uck! The E9 more than likely will have between 21-30 years of service. The only thing that may possibly be said by senior ranking officers, is that maybe the E-9 was a little " too hard, or too graphic" with the butter-bar, and it might create an insecurity complex for him. Big deal!
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No, because "what does the Lieutenant know". A chief knows! That Lieutenant is there to learn.
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
And... I wouldn't, in any case, no matter my rank, "Just Pop to attention", because of an Ensign
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
PO2 Michael Hitchcock - oh , crap, it says "O-1", so... Chief => No, Me => neither :)
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Yes. The battle would relocate behind a closed door. E9 would win and the LT would be enlightened.
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Under UCMJ he would have to but there would Def be some major issues happening, dietary first I don't know any 2nd LT''s that would have the balks to do it but if they did I think they would have their assess handed to then and I dint know any enlisted men that would day they saw anything
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