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If a fresh 2LT/ENS ordered an E9 to attention because of a disagreement, would the E9 have to comply? What would possibly happen?
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PO3 Donna Tucker
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I've seen ignorance or arrogance but that level of disrespect towards an E-9? Nope. I will watch tho, from a safe distance!
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PO3 Donna Tucker
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WOW. Who is that fresh and stupid? #Whenbutterbarsscrewup
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AN Aviation Maintenance Administrationman
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I had an ensign tell my cmc to get to attention and cmc complied but shortly after wards the CO walked over told the cmc to carry on and proceed to destroy the 0-1. One thing you do not do in the Navy is mess with a cos cmc especially when they like them.
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Sgt Lucas Shaffer
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He has to weather anyone likes it or not
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SFC Benjamin Nelson
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Yeah but...
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SP5 Jason Davis
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He would have to comply, but his captain is going to pay for it, shit roles down hill
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SPC James Hopkins
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He has to....but the 03 will have his ass later for the sheer disrespect to a senior enlisted
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CPT James Willis
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The E9 from a professional standpoint and Army Regulations would be compelled to comply with the order.
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SCPO Leonard White
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Yes, the ensign would pay. He would never make that mistake again.
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PO3 Master-at-Arms
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Got to watch this happen at nsa bahrain, right in the middle of the spine. That cmc stopped so damn fast i halted too (was walking behind him) for a hot second i thought i was in trouble too!!!
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SFC Jeffery Lee
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Of course by Army Regulation, and the Army standard that SGM/CSM always stressing to uphold, he/she should come to Attention, but you can bet your bottom dollars, that will be the last time that particular 01 losses his/her mind!!
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MAJ Jim Cook
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The E9 bring the professional that he or she should be would comply, right or wrong the 2Lt is a commissioned Officier and does out rank the E-9. I would then expect the E-9 to address the situation in a professional manner as to not cause undo embassment to him or her self or the 2Lt.
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SFC Warren Halsey
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Professional answer- Comply with this cherry officer because as Sr. NCO's it's our DUTY to teach lieutenants how to become effective leaders, and why the NCO/CPO is the backbone of the uniformed service's.

REAL WORD ANSWER/Response-In whatever terms of expression you decide, it's now time to "school" this butter bar on topics such as Rank Vs Authority; Pride and Professionalism Vs a virgin ego; Using "creative language " explain that the stripes you are wearing are embedded into your personality, and that it took you longer to earn them than the Cherry officer has time on the planet. Then, as the Echo-9, you speak with all the NCO's in the unit and explain the incident. More than likely, the end result, this cherry officer will not have any enlisted person from E-1 up respecting, trusting him, or supporting him. Lastly, if none of the above work, point blank advise the little $hit bird that in a few months you'll have made a major transition, while this dirt-bag officer will have to wallow around in his own personal $hit he just created by trying to twist the age old military phenomenon of confusing rank with authority, and who really would give a good #uck that a SGM/CSM/MCPO/CMSGT didn't snap- to for some punk-a$$, wet behind the ear's- breast milk-on the breath butter bar. Who would really give a #uck! The E9 more than likely will have between 21-30 years of service. The only thing that may possibly be said by senior ranking officers, is that maybe the E-9 was a little " too hard, or too graphic" with the butter-bar, and it might create an insecurity complex for him. Big deal!
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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No, because "what does the Lieutenant know". A chief knows! That Lieutenant is there to learn.
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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And... I wouldn't, in any case, no matter my rank, "Just Pop to attention", because of an Ensign
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock
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PO2 Michael Hitchcock - oh , crap, it says "O-1", so... Chief => No, Me => neither :)
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SA Ron Ellis
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Yes
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MCPO Darnell Eschete
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Yes. The battle would relocate behind a closed door. E9 would win and the LT would be enlightened.
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PFC Brian Grogan
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Under UCMJ he would have to but there would Def be some major issues happening, dietary first I don't know any 2nd LT''s that would have the balks to do it but if they did I think they would have their assess handed to then and I dint know any enlisted men that would day they saw anything
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SGT Michael Dibble
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Yes unf
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SPC Julius Stacy
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He would but also not like it
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SMSgt Jesse Rocha
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Comply
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