Posted on Dec 17, 2015
Would you carry at a Civilian, Work Christmas Party?
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We are having a Christmas party at a Country club in the Dallas area. It is not a military function. It is my civilian work function.
I was speaking to my direct supervisor, I asked if I was able to carry a weapon to the function. Told him what the SOP stated. He said that I wouldn't because it could go bad and not to take the chance. I asked him to run it up or whether he was saying no? He stated that No don't carry. I have warning bells going of and that warm fuzzy going on. Might not have anything happen, but would like to be prepared.
How would the RP member take this and or do? Or even have done differently.
Here is our policy:
HANDGUNS, FIREARMS, OR WEAPONS
Employer( Name taken Out) strives to provide a work environment that is safe for our colleagues, visitors, and customers. In light of this, handguns, firearms, or weapons of any sort are not permitted in any of (employer removed) office locations. Anyone found to have a weapon of any sort in their possession will be subject to disciplinary action, up-to and including immediate termination.
If you are aware of a colleague with a weapon, you are to notify Human Resources and your senior leader immediately. If you have mistakenly brought a weapon, notify Human Resources and your senior leader for proper handling while at the work-site.
I was speaking to my direct supervisor, I asked if I was able to carry a weapon to the function. Told him what the SOP stated. He said that I wouldn't because it could go bad and not to take the chance. I asked him to run it up or whether he was saying no? He stated that No don't carry. I have warning bells going of and that warm fuzzy going on. Might not have anything happen, but would like to be prepared.
How would the RP member take this and or do? Or even have done differently.
Here is our policy:
HANDGUNS, FIREARMS, OR WEAPONS
Employer( Name taken Out) strives to provide a work environment that is safe for our colleagues, visitors, and customers. In light of this, handguns, firearms, or weapons of any sort are not permitted in any of (employer removed) office locations. Anyone found to have a weapon of any sort in their possession will be subject to disciplinary action, up-to and including immediate termination.
If you are aware of a colleague with a weapon, you are to notify Human Resources and your senior leader immediately. If you have mistakenly brought a weapon, notify Human Resources and your senior leader for proper handling while at the work-site.
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At least in Texas, it is against the law to carry a weapon, concealed or otherwise into an establishment that has 51% or more of its sales in alcohol. I know it is also against the law to carry if you are intoxicated. I had a friend who got a DUI with his legally concealed weapon. That misdemeanor turned into a felony and it ruined his guard career.
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With all the events happening lately I personally would carry and not say anything. I noticed you said you have a full size 1911 and in my personal opinion that is not a conceal carry pistol, I would look going with a compact or sub compact if you are wanting to conceal.
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If it is legal for you to carry, don't ask and carry away. You are at a country club, not "in any of (employer removed) office locations", therefore violating no rules or policies.
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Why would you ask if you know it is wrong then don't do it. If it is not prohibited then why would you let people know what you have?
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If you are caught carrying, you will be in trouble with the civilian authorities and the National Guard, so why take that chance? Why are warning bells going off - have you heard something?
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SGT Bryon Sergent
Well Dallas had the shooting at the Mohammad thing a few months ago and then the shooting at the California Christmas Party. Just feel wrong with out it.
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SGT Bryon Sergent - Understood. I always carry a knife, and feel funny without it.
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SGT Bryon Sergent
Gibbs rule # 3 I believe. Always carry a knife! Its like American Express, never leave home with out it. I will have my side arm just wont carry in the event! Will also know my alternate avenues of escape!
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I would bring it up to my supervisor since that the event is not being taken place at an office location; it's a country club from what you say. Also I would understand with the light of some recent events, someone would be anti-gun or pro-gun at this function. Since the event is a company-based party, it may stray into the gray area with the anti-weapon policy but I can see where the policy only applies to office locations. Supervisor is looking out for the best interest of both parties. I'm not anti-gun but to avoid the aspect of dramatic expressions and acts, it would be best to not carry it with you. If you want to make sure that you have it near, put it in your car; hold on to your permit-to-carry.
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Remember, the worse trouble you can get out of it is limited, unless such party is in federal ground or location that prohibit firearm by state or federal law, all you will get is losing your job or get kick out of the event. Most of the states out there a "private gun free zone" has not enforcement of law, beside charging you trespassing when they ask you to leave and you refuse. At least in my state is 100% correct. Care to clarify what other states do the same like WV?
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I would refuse to attend , and I would ask other employees to do the same , and instead have a potluck somewhere else
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