Posted on Nov 24, 2013
SGT Gary Frank
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It has been over 30 years since I swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States. This oath is as sacred to me today as it was yesterday.

Today, it seems that our Individual Rights are under attack. That said, If given an order that violates the liberties afforded by the Bill of Rights should Commanders and or Troops feel obligated to follow it? 
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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You have to use the best possible judgment you can in every situation. We have lost a lot of key generals recently because they didn't agree with the Commander in Chief's policies. All military personnel need to have the courage to make those types of decisions in their careers. If you know its wrong than don't do it even if you have to go down with your own ship!
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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I'm sorry I thought I answered the survey. The answer for me personally, would be "No!" If I understand your question right, I served this nation to protect the constitution and obeying orders that violated other citizen's rights, in my opinion is wrong. I would have gone down with the ship! Hope I got it right that time LOL!
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SFC Agr Recruiter
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Completely agree Sir! At the end of the day, if I know the decision I made was the right one I can live with that.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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If you honestly believe an order to be in conflict with the Constitution, ESCALATE it. It's that simple.

Those who give the order have an obligation to clarify the conflict where possible or reasonable. But as COL Mikel J. Burroughs said "If you know its wrong" don't do it. It's better to be judged for not doing something for the right reasons, than for doing something for the wrong reasons, in my humble opinion.
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SPC Candace Leach
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To be honest on that part to obey orders to cause harm I'm sorry but I wouldn't even follow those types of orders. Even if I'm giving orders and I feel that it's not right, I will question it and if it causes harm to citizens I won't even follow them. Even if sone one can't stand up for themselves and ny command gives me orders to do harm to them, I can't do that and if it would cause me to get NJP for not following those types of orders, so be it. Just being honest on that!
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SPC Candace Leach
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SPC Candace Leach
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You're welcome Sgt Richard Buckner
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Would you follow Illegal Orders?
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Illegal, Immoral, Unethical. I do not have to follow this order. That is all.
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1SG Civil Affairs Specialist
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I could not follow that order. By definition, it would be an illegal order.
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SGT Gary Frank
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Before some says "Yes, if state Martial Law is issued" remember was the First 10 Amendments in the Bill of Rights say. then please state which Amendment allows Martial Law to supersede and or violate American Liberties.  
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SADLY...  That is so true....
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SGT Gary Frank
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I wish there was an EDIT feature on this site. Damn I hate Fat Fingering and TYPOS.....LOL
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LTC Bink Romanick
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You watch too much Fox.
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MSgt Robert Slagle
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An order to violate another's constitutional rights is no order at all. You have zero obligation to follow unlawful orders. In fact, you are obligated to disobey and report the violator.
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PO3 David Miller
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I have sworn to uphold the Constitution of the United States, and I will do just that. I don't care who gives the order, or the punishment. If it goes against the Constitution , I will not obey it.
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SPC Charles Brown
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No chance in hell.
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SPC Charles Brown
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Truth in advertising. This ain't advertising, but the truth will out.
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SSgt Combat Instructor
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As I recall my oath was to defend the Constitution of the United States against enemies foreign and domestic. If given an unconstitutional order I know I will not follow it. However, I will also be hoping and praying for a real good lawyer. 
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You and me both. Commanders do not like being told no, they also don't like being relieved.
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