Posted on Jul 7, 2017
Would you look down on someone who hasn't deployed?
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Depends on the reason.
Have they not had the opportunity to deploy? Or have they actively been looking for ways to get out of deployment?
For example, the Soldier keeps getting assignment to nondeploying units vs. Soldier seeks out nondeploying units or finds a "reason" to be on rear detachment while the rest of the unit deploys.
I've seen females that were pregnant and could not deploy, by the end of the 6 month post partum period they were pregnant again.
It all depends on why they haven't been deployed.
Have they not had the opportunity to deploy? Or have they actively been looking for ways to get out of deployment?
For example, the Soldier keeps getting assignment to nondeploying units vs. Soldier seeks out nondeploying units or finds a "reason" to be on rear detachment while the rest of the unit deploys.
I've seen females that were pregnant and could not deploy, by the end of the 6 month post partum period they were pregnant again.
It all depends on why they haven't been deployed.
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These days for the most part just about every one will go a combat zone, And to combat.
People rage on POGS all the time, But most of them go to combat as well.
Just my thoughts.
People rage on POGS all the time, But most of them go to combat as well.
Just my thoughts.
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I wouldn’t necessarily say that I would “look down” on anyone who found a legal way to avoid a deployment. Not everyone is a “hero”, and always volunteering for the toughest missions.
All we are required to do is the job we volunteered for, which is to serve in whatever branch of the military we joined. If there happens to be some totally legal and ethical way to “game” the system and avoid a long deployment, why be a martyr???
I did 20 years in the Navy, and Hell yes, I did whatever I could to not get orders to a ship that was deploying. Usually it involved reenlisting at the appropriate time to request a ship that was just returning from a cruise, entering into an extended yard overhaul, or class of ship that rarely deployed...
Now, it’s a totally different story if someone used dishonest or nefarious means to avoid doing their job. Faking an injury/illness or making up some story is just malingering or shirking a responsibility.
In the Navy, we knew the difference between “skating” and “malingering”. Skating was somewhat viewed as an accomplishment, especially if it involved careful planning and manipulating to avoid arduous duty... Some of us “Skates” were admired for our “skills”, dubious as they may have been.
All we are required to do is the job we volunteered for, which is to serve in whatever branch of the military we joined. If there happens to be some totally legal and ethical way to “game” the system and avoid a long deployment, why be a martyr???
I did 20 years in the Navy, and Hell yes, I did whatever I could to not get orders to a ship that was deploying. Usually it involved reenlisting at the appropriate time to request a ship that was just returning from a cruise, entering into an extended yard overhaul, or class of ship that rarely deployed...
Now, it’s a totally different story if someone used dishonest or nefarious means to avoid doing their job. Faking an injury/illness or making up some story is just malingering or shirking a responsibility.
In the Navy, we knew the difference between “skating” and “malingering”. Skating was somewhat viewed as an accomplishment, especially if it involved careful planning and manipulating to avoid arduous duty... Some of us “Skates” were admired for our “skills”, dubious as they may have been.
I would have a hard time doing so. I never deployed during my service and it had nothing to do with me. I was a Lance Missile Crewmember. Colin Powell ruled us out immediately for Desert Storm and called VII Corps and only a few elements of V Corps to deploy to Saudi. Sucked seeing my friends go but I still did duty back home although we got no war patch on our right shoulders and nothing beyond the NDSM. Not everyone goes when war comes and it's not your choice to deploy or not.
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It would depend on the situation. As an ICBM crewman, deployment wasn't really in the cards for us. There was only five possible bases I could have been assigned to, three operational and two training bases and they were all in the CONUS.
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Why are you embarrassed? Time and chance happens to us all. Did you avoid it? Or it just hasn’t happened yet. Mass rotations ended in 2011. There has been less of a chance for you, with under 8 years to deploy.
Many soldiers spend their whole 20+years having never deployed. There is a sense that you haven’t done your part (as they tell me), but so long as you’re not purposefully trying to evade deployment, then there’s no reason to be embarrassed.
Learn your craft, know your drills, understand your soldiers, and be ready for when the call does come...it’s only a matter of time.
Many soldiers spend their whole 20+years having never deployed. There is a sense that you haven’t done your part (as they tell me), but so long as you’re not purposefully trying to evade deployment, then there’s no reason to be embarrassed.
Learn your craft, know your drills, understand your soldiers, and be ready for when the call does come...it’s only a matter of time.
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A veteran is a veteran. I ETSd in 1990, right before Desert Shield started. It 's not my fault that there wasn't a conflict going on during my enlistment. Therefore I stand with my first statement.
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Stay lucky. I have a neighbor that has 20 in and spent 15 as a recruiter.
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It would depend on the reason. Did they have a valid reason, (DS, Recruiter, something else), is it because of their unit or MOS; then no. Is it because they were staying back just to stay back or to get out of deployments, then yes. Just because someone hasn't deployed doesn't mean they can't do their job and can't lead soldiers. Some folks who deployed don't know their jobs, and can't lead water down hill. Look at the total person and the total soldier, then make your judgement.
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