Posted on Sep 10, 2015
Would you support a military coup in the United States?
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Oath of Enlistment:
"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Our first duty is to the Constitution, not an elected official. If we had a government that was trampling all over it, I believe it would be our moral duty to take action against them.
"I, (state name of enlistee), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Our first duty is to the Constitution, not an elected official. If we had a government that was trampling all over it, I believe it would be our moral duty to take action against them.
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SGT David Starr
LTC (Join to see) - The National Guard is not bound by Posse Comitatus if under the direction of the Governor of the states and in the last 20 years I've watched most the National guard units become related to or affiliated with Combat arms missions... just a thought.
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GySgt Ray Wyatt
TSgt (Join to see) -Correct, I believe he might have been a bit busy at the time the towers falling and all that. Lt.Gen Maude was not KIA. He was on AD at the time but we were not at war.
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Not a chance. If I were in Command, I would consider it my duty to oppose such a coup with whatever forces I had available. I may not always agree with the government, and I may look to change the government (perhaps even the Constitution to some extent), but I would actively resist a military coup (and I suspect that most Servicemembers would as well).
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1SG Bill Wayne
SSgt Joseph Feenstra - Joseph, your mixing apples and oranges. If as a military member your protecting the laws of the government amd the Constitution its not a Coup
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SSgt Joseph Feenstra
MAJ Bryan Zeski - The Constitution provides that the president "shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur" (Article II, section 2). The Constitution's framers gave the Senate a share of the treaty power in order to give the president the benefit of the Senate's advice and counsel, check presidential power, and safeguard the sovereignty of the states by giving each state an equal vote in the treatymaking process.
So he does NOT have total power to make treaties, yet he goes forth like he does with Iran. Its no use argueing with you, as you seem the type that watch America tear itself apart while you hide behind the Officers oath. We have digressed as a nation when people follow leaders willing to disregard the foundations that made us who and what we are, while we hide behind duty to them instead of our country. I hope it dont come down to Americans killing Americans again...but I feel it might. There is no one human being that is greater than a nation of souls, but yet you say that there is...God help us.
So he does NOT have total power to make treaties, yet he goes forth like he does with Iran. Its no use argueing with you, as you seem the type that watch America tear itself apart while you hide behind the Officers oath. We have digressed as a nation when people follow leaders willing to disregard the foundations that made us who and what we are, while we hide behind duty to them instead of our country. I hope it dont come down to Americans killing Americans again...but I feel it might. There is no one human being that is greater than a nation of souls, but yet you say that there is...God help us.
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SSG(P) D. Wright Downs
I don't know how many people are aware of the Kennedy administration and the Bay of Pigs incident. There was an incident that was classified for many years regarding the manner in which the Generals wanted to act and how the President insisted they not act. They were pretty adamant and wanted to blow Cuba out of the water...it came pretty close. Too close. There was a "novel" writen about it. When things were declassified, it was amazing how close the "novel" was to the truth. Has happened a number of times, but usually with technical things.
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MAJ Bryan Zeski
SSgt Joseph Feenstra - You're killing me. Yes, the President has to have Treaties approved through Congress - and he will, but he still has the power to create the Treaty in the first place. Congress can't very approve a treaty that hasn't been created.
He doesn't have total power and hasn't done or said anything that would indicate that he thinks he does.
The problem with arguing with me is that you aren't bringing any evidence or sources to the argument except your own stories and opinions of people and things.
Bottom line - until a government/leadership in power refuses to abdicate their authority when called by the people to do so, the government is the rightful authority of that country and the military serves the peoples' wishes.
He doesn't have total power and hasn't done or said anything that would indicate that he thinks he does.
The problem with arguing with me is that you aren't bringing any evidence or sources to the argument except your own stories and opinions of people and things.
Bottom line - until a government/leadership in power refuses to abdicate their authority when called by the people to do so, the government is the rightful authority of that country and the military serves the peoples' wishes.
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