Posted on Dec 17, 2014
Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
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Congress arms committee out out in 2015 that all branches had to go to a universal set of uniform by fiscal year 2019. Idk what happened after that was put out but cause nobody seems to be talking about it.
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I completely agree. one utility uniform, with area specific uniforms on deployment that all services wear.
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unified in combat areas with unique to branch insignia. unique to branch class A uniform. Unique to branch rank.
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Precedent was set once the services started moving away from the BDU. Once precedent is set it's hard to go back.
Personally, I'd like a cleaner (Army) uniform. For the Army at least, I'd prefer a move back to collar rank for all and branch insignia for officers.
I believe Congress already forced the policy on new camo; all branches must agree on new additions for standardization which nobody seems to want.
Personally, I'd like a cleaner (Army) uniform. For the Army at least, I'd prefer a move back to collar rank for all and branch insignia for officers.
I believe Congress already forced the policy on new camo; all branches must agree on new additions for standardization which nobody seems to want.
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No because every branch of the military should have separate uniforms because each branch has different standards to uphold
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As long as everyone keeps there own dress uniforms. You can this Marines Dress Blues the same day as my cold dead body.
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Carriers have aways had Marines aboard who wore BDUs and Navy Sailors who served in Iraq, Afghanistan and other ground combat enviornments wore those same uniforms. Ive served in both Army and Navy and I dont remember blending into the ship being a big concern. A bigger question is why we in the army switched camo patters like 4 times duringva war where we were doing very little hiding. I remember practicing individual camoflauge during Expert Infantry Badge qualification while wearing the Armys new(at the time) ACUs and even the instructor couldnt keep a straight face. We decided to call them the I see yous.
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Marines,army,air force and some of the Navy had all the same field uniforms in the 80 and 90s when I was in So why not agin
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No. However the Army, in particular, needs to stop changing the field uniform every 5 yrs. IMHO they need to complete the issue (I know RA has to buy them) the new OCP and PT uniforms to all Army personnel. If they need a particular uniform for a different theater of operation then do so for ONLY those actually needing them. When the individual goes back to a garrison environment, then back to the OCP. Of course I Think the Army should get a true class B uniform. That white shirt has to go for casual wear.
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Kind of a difficult question to answer, but basically our uniforms represent our branch of service and that could be critical in some instances. If we were to look at things like underwear, fitness wear and many off duty aspects, perhaps. The Navy used to have specific purposes for our clothing, which increases survivability if your ship was sunk, not so much any more. Let your synthetic material seal to your skin with firs and try to make a flotation device with the new stuff.
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I fully support a single uniform for field use, with appropriate tape for branch, rank, etc... as needed.
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RallyPoint is starting to stagnate. Same recycled topics. Always Army personnel who can't agree how to regulate themselves or get with their program, or constantly fussing over whether they can put this badge or ribbon on or what
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Coming full circle. Back then when the Secretary of Defence was William Cohen, he required all service branches to use the same uniform pattern. Air Force had to give up the leather name patches and the Marines had to sew on their last names.
Amazing how we back to where it all started.
Amazing how we back to where it all started.
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I never understood each brach having its own BDU anyways. Having one for all branches with each branch having their own branch tape & rank would be in everybody's best interest. The sooner the better!
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I think we need to go back to a single utility uniform, like we had until the USMC developed MARPAT (then the Army tried to say "hold my beer" and failed with the ACUs). Furthermore, we need to let the combat arms professionals (infantry, special ops, etc) design the uniform... not the desk jockeys who place form over function.
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Good idea. I'm partial to multicam, myself. And a hat with a brim. Give SOF types their berets back, if they want them.
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We're not talking about making fashion statements. One good, versatile uniform that would serve our fighters under any circumstances would simply logistics and reduce costs. They can use hats and patches to enhance identification. Save the fashion statements for dress uniforms.
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I am torn here. Battle dress makes sense based on theater and mission not branch. Dress uniform definitely should remain separated. Good luck getting marines to give up their blood strip or letting others wear it.
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Imagine how much money the military would save. I remember when we all wore BDU's.
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As long as it's not the Army one we wore in Afghanistan - that was extremely uncomfortable and did not feel like a uniform; it felt more like pajamas
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
LT Charles Baird - I can't comment, because I never wore that one. I was in Afghanistan in 2003. Say hi to Cheatham Annex for me. I live in Williamsburg when I was a LT, 1989-1993, but never had access to Cheatham.
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LT Charles Baird
CDR Michael Goldschmidt - You didn't miss much there really isn't anything there but NAVELSG
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After wearing the Navy's blue cammies I would say yes.....no reason we shouldn't all be in the same utility uniform all the time. Service and dress uniforms should always be service specific, however.
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I feel it IS about time for a standard one for all 5 branches, but since there are so many 1-4 star Generals across ALL branches and they are all buckin for the 'next' star, this will never happen.
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This is probably the most asinine thing I have ever read or heard of coming from someone in the military!!!! All countries issue their military branches different uniforms for many reasons; the least of which is to distinguish them from each other!!!! Most military uniforms have historical context that represent the continuity of the uniform and the branch itself!!!
As for the camouflage; maybe it could be justified if it meets the individual mission requirements of each branch of service, but remember that they were changed in the first place because each branch needed and wanted different patterns and styles for their personnel!!!!
The old adage "if it is not broken do not fix it" comes to mind!!!!
Stop trying to change the military!!!!
It is fine the way it is!!!!
As for the camouflage; maybe it could be justified if it meets the individual mission requirements of each branch of service, but remember that they were changed in the first place because each branch needed and wanted different patterns and styles for their personnel!!!!
The old adage "if it is not broken do not fix it" comes to mind!!!!
Stop trying to change the military!!!!
It is fine the way it is!!!!
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
For those with memories, it wasn't broken before the services tried to fix it.
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CDR Michael Goldschmidt
Also interesting that at Civilian would be telling military people to stop trying to fix the military, and the military is fine the way it is. That's based on your military experience? Where to you think the term SNAFU came from?
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MCPO Roger Collins
CDR Michael Goldschmidt - That has occurred to me on more frequent occasions that ever based on the new civilian adds to RP.
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I have to say hell NO! Different uniforms between the different branches is good for morale on so many levels. Also different uniforms helps during large campaigns like Desert Storm so you know which branch of service you are seeing and dealing with. Many a time during Desert Shield/Storm I would come across troops in remote areas and would call in to report what I was seeing to make sure they were what ever branch of the US Forces and that they were authorized to be in that area.
Also if every branch has the same uniform it is easier for enemy forces to impersonate and gain a major advantage on us both abroad and here in the US.
Also if every branch has the same uniform it is easier for enemy forces to impersonate and gain a major advantage on us both abroad and here in the US.
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Seagoing services, Navy and Coast Guard, shouldn't have to wear camo. As a Machinery Technician I like our working blues or dungarees w/ a chambray shirt. I like what others have said about keeping the service specific dress uniforms. Lets each service keeps its identity.
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Uh no there have been enough uniform changes. I honestly didn't see the need for the change before in roughly 2007. Me personally it is a waste of time and money for the changes. Only time it should change is for the mission. JMHO
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Doesn't the uniform requirement have to fit the needs on the specific mission? More so the environment that they will be going to to defend us.
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Chief, and ALLCON: I was at the last combined LOGEX held at Fort Picket back in the day. A Joint Field Ex - we had Canadian military types with us as well. They shared with us the Canadian military tried that very idea, and it was the biggest "Recruiting" disaster ever in the history of the Canadian armed forces. Young people wanting to become engaged in a specific aspect of any of the armed forces sought to be recognized by the roll-specific uniforms for that area. Turning off that inducement, exchanging it for a 'one-size-fits-all' vanilla outfit, choked off their enlistment numbers in a heartbeat. Senior military leaders couldn't get that turned off quick enough. U.S. common uniform? Didn't work for the Canadians and I REALLY don't believe it would work for us!
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