Posted on Dec 17, 2014
Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
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Uniform changes in the Navy are a regular occurrence, mostly from bad to worse. I remember this staring with Adm. Zumwalt, who tried to make all the ranks look the same....whatever.
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I can see that!! Navy veteran and when I was in you had Navy blues for winter and Whites for summer, unless you was a Seabee you wore camafloge. After I got out they changed the dungarees to Dickies which was cool and over due!!
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I think it is a matter of Branch Pride, I served in Army and I wouldn't want to look like a Marine and I feel they would agree. If you want to instill Chaos and Confusion then try one uniform to fit all. I am all for keeping pride in the uniform. the Navy had the dungaree, the Army had the Greens and the Marine Corp never changed now were are all digitized with separate colors. Let's keep the pride.
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One battle/utility uniform would make sense in both a cost and production point of view. Back in the day I had and used “tiger stripes”. This pattern was the best that I used and offered very good concealment and well as long wear. The puzzle palace had to decide on changes for each branch. Keep the dress uniform but get the one battle/utility and go to aircrew style name tags for name and rank.
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i think a standardized uniform is a great idea, the rank and service insignia ought to be exclusive to each branch, but the uniform it goes on should be the same across all services, with exception to maybe sailors aboard ship, with them i believe they should have something that would be suitable for seaborne service
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From a logistics and purely 'uniformity' standpoint I could see the logic behind this but I think an SMs standard operations area must be considered. You do not want a standard woodland type camo being worn on in contrast to the superstructures on a cruiser of carrier, nor would you want the blue/grey naval camo being worn while trying to hide or low crawl or in an open field.
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Branches have through the Decades felt Uniforms defined them. I remember when the Navy changed from chambray Shirts and Dungarees, to Polyester. Keep the traditional system.
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Yes, this is the only time since the creation of utilities that we don’t have a common working uniform to deploy with. Different ones don’t fiscally make sense...
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Well it brings back the old saying," we are all equal in the military, because we all dress the same, to look the same and act the same". I agree that all services of the military must wear the multicam uniform. It would bring down the uniform cost, show that individualism is no longer needed by each branch and make it harder for our enemies to tell who they're fighting. We once wore olive green fatigues, except for ship borne sailors. Why not Multicam now?
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Yes. I came up under woodland, standard bdu. Worked fine. Just no velcro for the love of all that is holy.
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The Marines and Navy Seals still use their own uniforms, vice the OCPs in Afghanistan. We Navy folks have Type III's (green digis) which is our deployed uniform to HOA and other places, but use the OCPs in Afghanistan.
For us, if we could use Type III's instead of OCP, it would mean we would actually have useful gear when we return home, instead of Army gear that will probably sit around the man cave as war mementos. Not sure if this is a justifying enough reason, but it hits a little bit on the personal side, especially as we officers buy our own gear usually.
For us, if we could use Type III's instead of OCP, it would mean we would actually have useful gear when we return home, instead of Army gear that will probably sit around the man cave as war mementos. Not sure if this is a justifying enough reason, but it hits a little bit on the personal side, especially as we officers buy our own gear usually.
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I think that each branch should have a uniform that applies to their theater of operations... as for every branch looking the same that would be a bad idea ! We're all on the same team of course but if you can't tell the diffrent between a coast guard member and a marine or army from navy not only will this create confusion amongst squad leaders, platoon sgts, but a far greater confusion between branches ...Not to mention the pride that comes to being part of a certain branch...
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Not only no but he'll no, mainly for traditions sake if your in bush or desert that's different situation and should be handled as such
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Every branch needs its own task specific uniform, anyone as doesn't realize this ought to just retire and make way ,a sailors uniform includes bell bottom pants for a reason and why should they wear woodland or desert colors ? And shouldn't airman wear clothing as makes them less a target in case they have to bail ? Marines are specop navy and spend time on the beach the army ? Put them back in of and teach them about vegging out with yeti and making mud pies oh and since we are on track tell them there boots will be black in color and highly shined because an individual as spends an hour a day on their boots is gonna pay attention where they put there feet
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No. I like the division. If we all wear the same uniform then we might as well be in the same branch. Also other branches haven't earned the right to wear the same uniform like the air force, navy, and coast gaurd.
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As standardized utility/field uniform there would be a cost savings for all the branches. Additionally you would not have to worry about "Branding" a Branch Specific Camo pattern as the USMC had done a few years back. Break it down to some specific points and it almost becomes a necessity depending upon duties on ground , shipboard or aviation when fire resistance is a needed aspect as well. Kevlar and nomex blends having been the standard for fire protective apparel and very pricey to boot. You wouldn't have to have multiple lines of manufacture in various camo patterns, streamlining the acquisition process as well. But hey I was just a CA tree hugger hiding out in uniform, what would I know?
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NO! While green/tan based camo works fine for USMC/USA (aka land forces) it would not be good for a naval ship. Likewise, the Navy, Coast Guard and Air Force could share a blue/gray camo pattern while the USA/USMC could share a green/tan camo pattern(s).
All uniforms could be cut in the same pattern to have same pocket capacity, etc. That makes total sense. This would at least get fabrics down to two/three pattern types. It would also put contracting for making uniforms under a singular process.
In situations like Kandahar where DESERT CAMO makes sense in combined land operations this would makes sense, but in operations aboard ship, or stateside aboard respective bases this might not be as appealing. Unless we are going to make all bases JOINT bases and the common uniform is a working uniform (aka camies) by fabric and style, except for service specific identifies then keeping service identity via dress uniforms would be the separator.
Just some comments!
All uniforms could be cut in the same pattern to have same pocket capacity, etc. That makes total sense. This would at least get fabrics down to two/three pattern types. It would also put contracting for making uniforms under a singular process.
In situations like Kandahar where DESERT CAMO makes sense in combined land operations this would makes sense, but in operations aboard ship, or stateside aboard respective bases this might not be as appealing. Unless we are going to make all bases JOINT bases and the common uniform is a working uniform (aka camies) by fabric and style, except for service specific identifies then keeping service identity via dress uniforms would be the separator.
Just some comments!
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