Posted on Dec 17, 2014
SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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Multicam joint
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the closest I seen to a standard uniform for the Armed Forces was the multicam uniform when I was in Kandahar, and Air Force all wearing the uniform at one point with few deviations. Would do feel about this?
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SSG Keven Lahde
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA SFC I would agree with you on this one. I think it would save a ton of money in the long run. Just have a few alterations is all for each branch. That is my opinion on this topic.
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SSG Jeffery Christensen
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This is a hard one for me. I know that it would obviously be more cost effective for all branches to share one standard uniform. That being said, it would be more cost effective for the USPS, FedEx, and UPS to share uniforms. I'm probably a little bit old school, but I think it IS important for each service to "represent". If (in my humble opinion), we all look exactly the same, the lines of responsibility start to fade, in the eyes of the public. I also think loyalty plays a big part; each service member takes pride in the fact that they chose the particular service they are in.
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USPS, FedEx and UPS are three very separate entities. USPS a is tax and revenue funded government organization, while the latter two are corporations. Corporations don't share expenses and government agencies don't split the bill with corporations.

The military on the other hand is all umbrella'd under the DoD and serves in separate and joint assignments worldwide. Pride in the uniform should be achieved by the wearer's care and conduct, not by looking different... just for the sake of not looking like the other guys.
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Sgt Lew Dunham
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keep as is ...
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
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We had it in the OG fatigues, for a couple of decades, followed by the
woodland camo fatigues for a decade or so. The everyone went off on their own
service camo fatigues. The OG was the best for blending in almost everywhere.
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SPC Mamoun Assad
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No, if you can't tell you run a safety risk for one. It would also cause lots of confusion on installations with multiple branches of service members.
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Do educate me on what safety risks would occur by matching combat/utility uniforms among branches?

Confusion? I guess we weren't as confuse-able prior to 2005 when the ACUs came out and every branch decided to do their own patterns.
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MSG Paul DePrimo
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Absolutely Not! Politics already has taken the Black beret from the Army Rangers without input from any one except staff personnel and Gen Shenseki of course. We have another General stating that the ACU's were a bad design but yet where was he when the approval process went through? I know he was in service. Let the troops decide on a uniform change and NOT the politician's! If I wanted to look like a Navy or Airforce troop I would have joined that branch!
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Cpl Machine Gunner
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Absolutely not. Here is why:

Different situations call for different camouflage patterns and utility types to be used depending on geographical location, combat/non-combat situation, weather, etc.

A great example would be the U.S. Army's UCP on the ACU, which I do not wear, but I know many who think the UCP is a too much of a "limbo" pattern; efficient somewhere in situations between mountainous/tundra and urban areas. Multi-cam when used in the same situation may not be as effective and can even pose a threat to the soldiers considering visibility. But it's pattern, which is effective in grassland, forest, mountain, and even urban situations, cannot completely overrule the relevance of the UCP ACU. The Air Force basically is in the same boat since the ABU's pattern is similar to the UCP, and groundside/deployed units utilize the multi-cam utility.

The Navy's "N-dubs" work rather well on a ship, though there are many that agree that, in the case of a sailor going overboard, it might be hard to spot him/her when wearing a navy-blue uniform. I would even suggest the NWUs have a higher ratio of the silver/grey "pixels" to the dark-blue colors. Groundside sailors use multi-cam in many situations, whereas "greenside" sailors (Navy personnel attached to a Marine unit), use either woodland or desert MARPAT. Having different patterns proves to be effective, especially for the Navy, where having ship and shore rates requires the availability. If anything, the Navy should not even use the multi-cam and be given the Marine MARPAT, just without the Marine Corps emblem on the pocket and cover. It would not be hard for the Navy to do this since woodland/desert MARPAT "US NAVY" chest tapes and rank insignia already exist. The NWU should not be obsolete though, just altered. US Navy Seabees could keep their uniform (US Navy Type III) since it is similar to the woodland MARPAT, or trash. Whichever works...

The Marine's woodland MARPAT pattern has proven extremely effective in both jungle, mountainous/tundra, and night operations. Whereas the desert MARPAT has the same efficiency in the desert, snow, and some mountainous situations where wearing woodland exposes the Marines. Wearing multi-cam, although somewhat effective, simply does not work as well as woodland MARPAT when the situation calls for it. In situations like jungle warfare, the woodland pattern is excellent and blends superbly with the environment. The desert pattern as works in any clime and place a Marine may be sent.

Aside from all of this, a less significant point would be a mix of culture and tradition. And of course, as a Marine, that's what I'm all about. I simply cannot see Marines wearing multi-cam and having "pinning" ceremonies where a Marine Sergeant gets his first rocker with a hook-and-loop (Velcro) patch smacked onto his sternum. Also, the MARPAT uniforms are unique in the sense that they were the first digital camouflage within the US Military and distinctly display our emblem on the left breast pocket. There are a few other things that I feel would be odd for any service member of any branch to change over to a common uniform but are less relevant.

The multi-cam utility serves its purpose well for the Army and Air Force in the event that the UCP/ACU and ABU does not suffice. And the US Navy has NWU Type II and Type III for groundside situations. The Marines have done well with their woodland and desert MARPAT. These uniforms are designed by their respective branches FOR that branch, WITH the branch in mind every step of the way.

The Army and Air Force need multi-cam utilities. The Army still has a use for the ACU as well. The Navy should alter their NWUs, but I feel they are still relevant. Groundside units could easily utilize Type II and Type III uniforms or altered MARPAT since "greenside" Navy already does this. The Marines do not need another uniform, nor do they need to change theirs.

If there were to be an all-branch uniform, it would probably come in multiple color/pattern variants and the individual branches would stick to the color/pattern variant they use more or need; this simply defeats the purpose of developing a new uniform or using an existing one - which, when considering efficacy, does not exist.
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SGT Brian Gibbs
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I think the Utility uniform for Training and Combat use would be a great idea. Maybe some deviation dependent on job specifics, but the same camo outline. When I was in the Army I always thought it was interesting that we wore our combat fatigues all the time. I always felt this was unprofessional. My father was in the marine corps when I was growing up and I remember him in the all brown dress uniform (cant remember what they are called). I always felt that something of that manner was more professional when not in training or on the battlefield. Unless your job was in the MotorPool climbing around on Tanks and trucks. But to answer the original question. Yes. For combat only....we should all be united in the same look and feel of the US.
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TSgt Atsev
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The OCP's are great. Loved them during my time in Bagram and Bastian. I do, however, miss BDU's and DCU's.
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PO1 Information Systems Technician
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This is the problem I see...
Person 1 yells, "Soldier..., Hey Soldier..., Soldier!!!!,"
Person 2 replies, "I am a God damn Sailor!!!!!!!"
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
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What's the Sailor upset about? Person 1 gave him an upgrade calling him a Soldier!
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PO1 Information Systems Technician
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I would not call that an upgrade. This would also cause a lot of confusion upon the military.
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SFC Platoon Sergeant
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you think so PO1 (Join to see)? We did it for about 20 years, then suddenly decided we needed to look different. Wasn't that confusing, we learned to correct what needed correct and respond respectfully when we were corrected.

Then again, expecting service members to uphold some level of professional discipline may be beyond or capabilities in a modern military.
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