Posted on Dec 17, 2014
Would you support a standard uniform for all branches of service? Why or Why not?
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Back in the day (late 70's, early 80's) both the Army and Air Force wore the same green uniforms for daily wear. Then the Army went to BDU's and for the most part, so did everyone else. Now, we all have to be different. It makes economic sense to have one type of uniform for all. But I would let each service add it own touch (such as sleeve rank insignia or other markings).
Each combat environment is different and the quest to find a "one camo pattern to fit all" will always fail. When down range, we should all wear the uniform that makes the most sense for the location.
Each combat environment is different and the quest to find a "one camo pattern to fit all" will always fail. When down range, we should all wear the uniform that makes the most sense for the location.
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I would totally support it. I think the grey Air Force uniforms get dirt to easly.
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
I think the Army ACU rip and fade too easy. When/if all the representatives from the branches go into the design mode, it'll be interesting what the "mutual agreed upon" uniforms look like
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Yes, I think a universal combat/ utility uniform would save the DOD a ton of money. No matter what base a service member is at, they could buy utility uniform items. It worked 15 years ago when we all had the old tricolor uniforms. Why wouldn't it work now?
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I would agree to let the Army wear the Digital Camis of the Marine Corps. On one condition though. You can stick patches all over it. You know why? Because it doesn't have VELCRO.
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SMSgt Thor Merich
The army wont wear MARPAT. They copied the basic design pattern but they took out the black because they say "black doesn't naturally occur in nature." The design of the uniform (not the color) is poor and the amount of Velcro is silly.
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I support it %100. I liked the multi cam. and think it looks sharp. I think we could all just wear our own rank etc
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Yes, Combat uniformity with service dress being branch specific (Pre-9/11 Rules).
Just make sure that those involved with the "development/decision making" of the UCP/ABU patterns are allowed nowhere near the process. Multicam and MARPAT were ready/available before ACU/ABU were made, this insanity driven by folks who have no idea what their doing while bold-face lying about "effectiveness" in order to generate "individuality via jealousy", needs to stop (I'm looking at you Air Force for wishing you were cool enough to wear original Tiger Stripes, and you Army for wanting digi's so bad it didn't matter what color it was in). For example, it took me about 15min [with some mad photoshop skills I might add] a few years ago to perfectly digitize/pixelate the amazingly effective Multicam colorway at a full resolution (example attached) if simply being digital was so important.
Just make sure that those involved with the "development/decision making" of the UCP/ABU patterns are allowed nowhere near the process. Multicam and MARPAT were ready/available before ACU/ABU were made, this insanity driven by folks who have no idea what their doing while bold-face lying about "effectiveness" in order to generate "individuality via jealousy", needs to stop (I'm looking at you Air Force for wishing you were cool enough to wear original Tiger Stripes, and you Army for wanting digi's so bad it didn't matter what color it was in). For example, it took me about 15min [with some mad photoshop skills I might add] a few years ago to perfectly digitize/pixelate the amazingly effective Multicam colorway at a full resolution (example attached) if simply being digital was so important.
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Cpl Phil Hsueh
FYI, Multicam is actually a digital pattern, it's just not pixelated but being pixelated is not what makes a pattern digital. IIRC what makes a pattern is how it was developed, in the case of a digital pattern it was created with the aid of a computer, I don't recall the exact details but I think it had something to do with color and pattern analysis.
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MSgt (Join to see)
Right, Multicam has digital fades, and was designed via computer. The issue was the Army wanted an obviously pixelated pattern (ala Marines) more than they actually wanted an effective pattern. Then comes the Air Force whose only goal was to get to wear "tiger stripes" regardless of effectiveness.
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One team one fight! We all have pride in what we do and sometimes feel we do a better job than other branches. Bottom line were paid the same rate plus special duty based on different criteria. That's what sets us apart. Navy has the highest annual budget for uniforms (what are you up to? 6?) And your blue, you fall in the water who's gonna fuck in see you, jk. One uniform, save cost, maybe a sand/jungle/gassison diviation. Keep our own dress uniform for special occasions (mines never been worn in 4 years).
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We are all different, do different jobs and it's ok to have Branch Pride. Espirit De Corp amongst the different branches!
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SFC Michael Jackson, MBA
SFC Daniel Byrd
I understand the branch pride, and the desire for own identity, but with the budget cuts and every dollar being scrutinized, is it worth holding on to. Would compromise with keeping the dress uniform?
I understand the branch pride, and the desire for own identity, but with the budget cuts and every dollar being scrutinized, is it worth holding on to. Would compromise with keeping the dress uniform?
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I would support a common uniform. For one thing, it's cheaper than letting all the services try to research and develop a brand new pattern every few years. Less money spent there means more money for other stuff like required hardware/tools for those careers that need them. It also builds more national unity. Though we all joke about our sister services, we are all fighting for the same friends and families at home. It only makes sense 1 team, 1 fight!
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Uniforms for the your suroundings! I think that the working uniforms (I.E. camo) should reflect the members surroundings regardless of what branch they may be from in a combat zone, outside of that I feel that each branch has a sense of pride in their uniforms that we should not take away. The fact that we all have U.S. (branch, I.E. Navy, Marine, Army, Air Force, Coast Gaurd) unites us all you in the same but as we all know the different branches has their different ways about the, is it a head or a latrine or a bathroom, is it a wall or bulkhead, a hatch or door. Our traditions are very different as well. I say own the branch you are in and show off when you can but when it comes to combat we share the same blood so why not the same uniform.
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