Rp logo flat shadow
Command Post What is this?
Posted on Mar 24, 2023
Army Reserve Careers Group
23
23
0
Avatar feed
Responses: 4
CW2 Victor Munoz
4
4
0
Thank you everyone for this clarification. I was told, am not sure, that when I pinned on my bars as a WO2, that I was the first in Fort Huachuca to be Commission as the first Army Warrant Officer on the military intelligence field. I haven't been able to verify this but am still researching before announcing it as a real.
(4)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
LTC Hugo Lentze
3
3
0
My experience with Warrant Officers was 22 years in the Aviation branch. The vast majority of my pilots were Warrant Officers (roughly 10 Warrant Officers for every Lieutenant). Warrant Officers held positions of responsibility (Instructor Pilot, Maintenance Test Pilot, etc) and they sometimes held platoon leader positions, but that was very seldom and until a Lieutenant filled that position.

I showed up to my first platoon leader job with less than 500 hrs of flight time, but was in charge and outranked Warrant Officers who had more than 4000 hrs of flight time and 20 yrs of service. Lieutenants outrank CW5s, but there was never any ambiguity in those relationships: the Warrant Officers are the technical experts, and the Lieutenants and Captains are the leaders. It wasn't until I was a Major in an assault battalion that I had surpassed the bulk of Warrant Officers in my battalion in both flight time and aviation unit experience.

Even if both Warrant Officers and Officers are commissioned, in a very practical and real sense it was the Lieutenants and Captains who were held responsible for the leadership, training, and conduct of Warrant Officers, NCOs, and Enlisted in the unit.

I will say, however, that my respect for senior Warrant Officers was such that I sometimes found myself calling them "Sir," especially during check rides (and Warrant Officers flight train and evaluate Lieutenants, Captains, Majors, and higher ranks..... ;)
(3)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CW2 Victor Munoz
3
3
0
Refresh my memory, I thought Warrant Officer was also commissioned Warrant Officers
(3)
Comment
(0)
COL Infantry Officer
COL (Join to see)
1 y
Thanks Chief. You are correct. Warrant Officers and Officers take the same oath and are both commissioned.
(1)
Reply
(0)
COL Infantry Officer
COL (Join to see)
1 y
OK….After a bit more research, Warrant Officers take the same oath and W-1s are appointed. However, here’s what I found as well: “Article II, section 3, of the U.S. Constitution provides that the President "shall Commission all the Officers of the United States," including officers of the uniformed services as well as civilian officers. Commissions of officers in the armed services are issued in the name of the President, although authority to sign on the President's behalf is generally exercised by the secretary of the department in which the officer is being commissioned. This includes not only "commissioned officers" but also "commissioned warrant officers" (warrant officers in the pay grades of W-2 through W-5). Warrant officers at the grade of W-1 are appointed by warrant by the secretary of their respective service, except in the Coast Guard where they are appointed by secretarial commission.”
(2)
Reply
(0)
LTC Stephen C.
LTC Stephen C.
1 y
2407efaa
895774d6
This from the Warrant Officer Historical Foundation:
CW2 Victor Munoz COL (Join to see)
(1)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close