Posted on Jul 24, 2015
ADM John Harvey here. I'm stopping by this coming Tuesday. What questions do you have for me?
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Admiral John C. Harvey most recently served as the 31st Commander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command through September 14, 2012. During his reputable career, Admiral Harvey served aboard the USS Enterprise, USS Bainbridge, USS Mcinnerney, USS Nimitz and USS Long Beach. He also served as Commander of the USS David R. Ray, USS Cape St. George and the Theodore Roosevelt Strike Group. Needless to say, if you’re looking for a well-informed perspective on the future of the Navy, or its role in affairs abroad, Admiral Harvey is the guy to ask.
In 2012, we were honored to have Admiral Harvey join our esteemed board of advisors. We’re delighted to welcome him to RallyPoint for a Q&A on July 28th!
From RallyPoint Staff:
Admiral John C. Harvey most recently served as the 31st Commander, U.S. Fleet Forces Command through September 14, 2012. During his reputable career, Admiral Harvey served aboard the USS Enterprise, USS Bainbridge, USS Mcinnerney, USS Nimitz and USS Long Beach. He also served as Commander of the USS David R. Ray, USS Cape St. George and the Theodore Roosevelt Strike Group. Needless to say, if you’re looking for a well-informed perspective on the future of the Navy, or its role in affairs abroad, Admiral Harvey is the guy to ask.
In 2012, we were honored to have Admiral Harvey join our esteemed board of advisors. We’re delighted to welcome him to RallyPoint for a Q&A on July 28th!
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Adm Harvey, another question, how much is too much automation? I can tell all kinds of sea stories of officers relying on shipboard automation, and then being at a total loss when those automated systems crash, which they will...
For instance, what happens if you're in the channel and the computerized charting system crashes?
What happens if your bridge radar repeaters crash and all you have is the Feruno? Many JOs I've seen don't know about scope head plotting, taking fixes, using paper charts, etc...
Maybe I'm just too much of a dinosaur, but as a computer expert, this is scary to me...
V/R Rabbi Jaron Matlow, LCDR (1110 Nuclear) USN Ret...
For instance, what happens if you're in the channel and the computerized charting system crashes?
What happens if your bridge radar repeaters crash and all you have is the Feruno? Many JOs I've seen don't know about scope head plotting, taking fixes, using paper charts, etc...
Maybe I'm just too much of a dinosaur, but as a computer expert, this is scary to me...
V/R Rabbi Jaron Matlow, LCDR (1110 Nuclear) USN Ret...
Good Day Admiral, As a 4 time Command Master Chief I am thrilled to see the Navy taking on more of a role in the Littorals where we really do belong. Carriers and Carrier Battle Groups aside, and I did love my Aegis Cruiser, USS Anzio (CG-68), I really do think smaller ships like the LCS platforms have a real place in the US Navy of the future. Even though I retired in 1996 I keep up with the fleet and people today.
Having said all of that, I am very concerned with the manning of the ships. Blue and Gold crews sort of work on submarines, sort of. BUT, Admiral you and I both know that if no one really owns it, well, lets leave it for the next guy (or other crew) to worry about becomes a real problem. Can 40 Sailors really do the job of 200? Sure they can as long as everything works and no one gets hurt or killed, but Admiral, we are here to fight wars and Sailors die in wars. There is NO redundancy in case of Battle death. I love the concept of the LCS Ships, but loathe both the swap of crews and under manning. Can we fix these People problems and make these ships fantastic?
Having said all of that, I am very concerned with the manning of the ships. Blue and Gold crews sort of work on submarines, sort of. BUT, Admiral you and I both know that if no one really owns it, well, lets leave it for the next guy (or other crew) to worry about becomes a real problem. Can 40 Sailors really do the job of 200? Sure they can as long as everything works and no one gets hurt or killed, but Admiral, we are here to fight wars and Sailors die in wars. There is NO redundancy in case of Battle death. I love the concept of the LCS Ships, but loathe both the swap of crews and under manning. Can we fix these People problems and make these ships fantastic?
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ADM John Harvey
MCPO Treants, I agree with you on the need for increased manning of LCS. There are currently too few Sailors assigned to do the daily work required to keep that ship operating properly. The good news is that I think the next flight of the LCS class will be more heavily armed and better-manned - a true warship that can make a difference in the littoral. As to multiple crews for a single hull, I hear you, BUT I think we need to find a way to make that concept a viable one for this class. 4 crews rotating between 3 hulls gets a great deal more overall underway time with fewer ships, particularly if they are homeported overseas (Singapore and Sasebo). Tough to pull off, but worth trying in my book. All the best, JCHjr
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The "Boomer" Fleet has operated on the Blue and Gold concept its entire existence. I would think switching between 3 hulls would get very confusing after awhile, especially if they're not identical. Further the 4/3 plan means these sailors are underway even more than Boomer sailors.
I'm not a fan of the LCS class, especially as it's been implemented so far, with competing hull forms. The notion that the DDG1000 is needed to protect them, and we're only building three of them, makes survivability a scary notion to me...
I guess it's going to be a wait and see kind of thing... V/R JBM
I'm not a fan of the LCS class, especially as it's been implemented so far, with competing hull forms. The notion that the DDG1000 is needed to protect them, and we're only building three of them, makes survivability a scary notion to me...
I guess it's going to be a wait and see kind of thing... V/R JBM
CMDCM Gene Treants
Thanks for the answer Admiral. I had no idea we were looking at that type rotation for these ships and, yes, in that case it does make sense. I am still not entirely pleased with no one really "owning" the ship and I have seen first hand what that does on Boomers.
Once one Hull Type is decided upon, then we will finally get to see what this ship concept can really do. Since I have not ridden or served on either type, I have no vote, but am very interested in then ultimate outcome. Thanks again for your service Admiral.
Once one Hull Type is decided upon, then we will finally get to see what this ship concept can really do. Since I have not ridden or served on either type, I have no vote, but am very interested in then ultimate outcome. Thanks again for your service Admiral.
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Good afternoon Sir. I also served aboard the USS Enterprise. No other ship will ever compare. I would like to know when they plan to begin construction on CVN80. I was at My ships retirement and would love to be around long enough to be at her replacement's commissioning.
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ADM John Harvey
The USS GERALD R FORD (CVN 78) will commission next year, and USS JOHN F KENNEDY (CVN 79) is under construction now to commission in around 2022. The USS ENTERPRISE (CVN 80) should be "underway, making way" by 2027.
You and I will have to hang on until then! I'll see you at her commissioning! All the best, JCHjr
You and I will have to hang on until then! I'll see you at her commissioning! All the best, JCHjr
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PO2 Mark Saffell
Gives us old guys a reason to hang on. I'd love to go to sea on her for a tiger cruise.
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What's you're take on PACO & CENTCOM for the last 10 yrs and how does it project our future on war, allies and political relationships?
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ADM John Harvey
CPL Yang, you've asked a very interesting question. Currently OSD and the services divide the globe up and look at many of the issues we are confronting in a primarily regional manner. This approach is understandable given the reality of what the military has been expected to do over the past 20 years and is a natural outgrowth of the command structure that has evolved since WW 2. One of the downsides, though, is that each Combatant Commander sees his corner of the world in isolation and requests forces he believes necessary to accomplish the missions he's been given. Well, when you add up all the force requests from PACOM, CENTCOM, EUCOM, etc, the combatant commanders are demanding the routine deployment of forces that simply don't exist so an elaborate bargaining process takes place (brokered by the Joint Staff) that gives them all something, but rarely enough to accomplish the missions they've been given and always too much for the services to sustain.
My bottom line is that taking an essentially regional view of the world (our current approach) keeps us from properly identifying our GLOBAL priorities and resourcing them appropriately. All the best, JCHjr
My bottom line is that taking an essentially regional view of the world (our current approach) keeps us from properly identifying our GLOBAL priorities and resourcing them appropriately. All the best, JCHjr
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So what I'm getting is, a joint-global security unified as sections, and just for theory sake NATO or have something of a central council/ group of XO (more or less politics above my head)
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ood afternoon sir. My question is... What is your view on the presidents deal with Iran and his thing with isis. Obviously he priorities are wrong if he is saying guns are a bigger threat than terrorism. But the way I see it, he is enabling terrorism with this "deal" made with Iran and hasn't done one thing to stop isis.
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ADM John Harvey
SPC (P) Brojakowski, I think the President focused the deal with Iran solely on the nuclear weapons issue and not on the many other issues we have with Iran, such as their support for various terrorist activities or how we confront ISIS.
My view is that the deal represented the "least bad" option available to us to significantly delay the day when Iran has nuclear weapons. Absent this deal, I think we would have been heading toward a conflict with Iran within the next three years which would have been a disaster. With this deal, we've bought some significant maneuvering space (10-15 years) during which we can work all the other issues we have with Iran.
Everyone will find something with the deal to dislike, and I'm no exception, but I do believe there are sufficient verification mechanisms that are part of the agreement to enable timely and accurate monitoring of Iran's compliance and that the steps Iran has agreed to take will push their nuclear weapons program back at least a decade.
Ultimately, I believe the fighting against ISIS in Syria and Iraq should be done by the "locals" and not our troops. I also believe that we should do much more to combat the ideas that ISIS propagates on their networks throughout our societies. All the best, JCHjr
My view is that the deal represented the "least bad" option available to us to significantly delay the day when Iran has nuclear weapons. Absent this deal, I think we would have been heading toward a conflict with Iran within the next three years which would have been a disaster. With this deal, we've bought some significant maneuvering space (10-15 years) during which we can work all the other issues we have with Iran.
Everyone will find something with the deal to dislike, and I'm no exception, but I do believe there are sufficient verification mechanisms that are part of the agreement to enable timely and accurate monitoring of Iran's compliance and that the steps Iran has agreed to take will push their nuclear weapons program back at least a decade.
Ultimately, I believe the fighting against ISIS in Syria and Iraq should be done by the "locals" and not our troops. I also believe that we should do much more to combat the ideas that ISIS propagates on their networks throughout our societies. All the best, JCHjr
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And once more sir, if you don't mind. Iran is a large, if not the largest, terrorist supporting nation country in the world. That being said, at what point do we finally listen to our own policies and say we do not negotiate with terrorists. American citizens are being held hostage in the aforementioned country and their release was not worked into the "deal". But the administration under the president bent over backwards and released 5 convicted terrorist leaders in exchange for deserter and traitor, bowe bergdahl. In what way is this okay and how will they be rescued?
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ADM John Harvey Thank you, I agree with you 100%. There have been no better options floated, and neither the Status Quo nor war with Iran are options.
The irony right now with Iran, of course, is that they are fighting ISIS, due to the Sectarianism of modern Islam. As a clergy person, I am deeply troubled by people killing people over religion, but even more so, Inter-religionists...
The irony right now with Iran, of course, is that they are fighting ISIS, due to the Sectarianism of modern Islam. As a clergy person, I am deeply troubled by people killing people over religion, but even more so, Inter-religionists...
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Sir, in muslim religion, the koran says that they must force everyone into islam. So if you were confronted by a muslim and threatened with death, would you gladly accept the terms or would you fight? Or being a man of God, would you stand back and let that happen to someone else or would you step in and fight for or along side them?
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Sir with all the cyber theft going on as far as remotely taking over automobiles and aircraft; are military defensive and offensive weapons systems really immune or actually set up for safe manual shutdown. Once shut down how vulnerable are we and can those systems operate mechanically. Without today's electronics systems how well would the navy and the rest of our armed forces be able to function, say after a emf attack
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ADM John Harvey
MSGT Diaz, please see my answer to a similar question from LCDR Matlow above. All the best, JCHjr
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Sir, thank you for your time and visiting us at Rally Point. I have a couple question about the future of warfare.
1 How important are the new weapons systems that the Navy is testing like the rail gun and laser going to be in the future of Naval warfare?
2 Are these weapons systems really as devastating to a target as they are claimed to be?
1 How important are the new weapons systems that the Navy is testing like the rail gun and laser going to be in the future of Naval warfare?
2 Are these weapons systems really as devastating to a target as they are claimed to be?
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ADM John Harvey
SSG Erny, I've been watching the development of the rail-gun for at least 20 years and just about as long for directed-energy weapons. The physics associated with taking these concepts and making effective, deployable weapons systems is very difficult and progress has been very slow - I think they are still quite some ways off.
Now, the capability that would exist should the physics issues be resolved would be pretty extraordinary, but I'm afraid we're quite a long way from that day. All the best, JCHjr
Now, the capability that would exist should the physics issues be resolved would be pretty extraordinary, but I'm afraid we're quite a long way from that day. All the best, JCHjr
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Hi Admiral. I was on the USS Wichita (AOR-1) with the Long Beach and Enterprise alongside. Long Beach lost her rudder control, resulting in one of the two non-drill emergency breakaways in my time on board :). Interesting day, for sure. Just an anecdote, no questions for you, sir. Although now I wonder if you were on either of those ships when it happened lol. The big E, of course, also had to breakaway.
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ADM John Harvey
SN Wright, here's one back at you - I was in command of USS DAVID R RAY (DD 971) en route to participate in the Portland Rose Festival in 1991. I was alongside WICHITA to port refueling while my best friend was in command of USS BARBEY alongside to starboard and just getting the prob over.
So he and I are talking over the SP phone planning our liberty in Portland when all of a sudden there's a tremendous geyser of fuel spewing midships on WICHITA.
I take one look at it, initiated an emergency break-away (after all, I had received 90% of the DFM I needed) and got the hell out of dodge!
Poor old Tom was stuck alongside WICHITA for another 3 hours while they tried to figure out the screwed-up valve line-up that had caused the pressurized geyser.
Just another day at at sea! All the best, JCHjr
So he and I are talking over the SP phone planning our liberty in Portland when all of a sudden there's a tremendous geyser of fuel spewing midships on WICHITA.
I take one look at it, initiated an emergency break-away (after all, I had received 90% of the DFM I needed) and got the hell out of dodge!
Poor old Tom was stuck alongside WICHITA for another 3 hours while they tried to figure out the screwed-up valve line-up that had caused the pressurized geyser.
Just another day at at sea! All the best, JCHjr
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Glad I never had a situation like that on an Unrep... v/r JBM
Admiral Harvey, In your years as a leader, what the two situations, where you remembered outstanding examples of ethics in the men and women you led ? a BIG thanx, for your service ...Richard / Colorado / USS Ranger / 74-76
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No easy answer to this one - we have crossed the cyber Rubicon, if you will, so we better focus on a) how we're going to protect these systems and b) how we can rapidly adapt to conducting routine operations without them ie, navigate the "old-fashioned" way, communicate long haul via HF and reliance on knowledge of Commander's Intent to carry out the mission rather than constant direction received from on-high via e-mail, etc. All the best, JCHjr