Posted on Jun 7, 2016
Being Non-Airborne In An Airborne Unit Isn’t A Bad Thing
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Soldiers often carry the concern that they are being assigned to or are in an airborne unit despite not being airborne qualified, and how this could impact their career.
Well, it won't negatively impact anyone’s career - unless they want it to. Being in an airborne unit, yet not being qualified, does not impact your career in any way actually. There are too many factors that limit airborne qualification. There are medical issues, such as knee problems, back problems, or not being able to pass the airborne physical for whatever reason. There’s also the modified table of equipment (MTOE) allowance; this is where soldiers are not slotted or allocated an airborne position in the unit.
Being non-airborne in an airborne unit really just means the following. When a Soldier is not in a designated airborne unit, they typically will not get a slot to attend the course. That is unless they reenlist for an airborne option that will then send them on to an airborne unit upon completion of the course.
Sometimes they may return back to the previous unit with an airborne tab, but not actively on airborne status.
The genetic makeup of the unit I was in was not airborne, but the other companies in the battalion were airborne units. We spent a lot of time supporting their airborne missions when they happened. I was assigned to the 95th Chemical Company, 6th Engineer Battalion, 2nd Engineer Brigade, 4-25 Infantry Division, located on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER) in Alaska. Outside of being the Pacific Command asset for chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) matters, we also assisted the battalion with their airborne operations, ranging from providing transportation, shaking 'chutes, recovering parachutes, and other associated equipment procedures as necessary. This may be viewed as a negative thing because the word "detail" is associated with the task, but in reality it’s not. Being on this detail actually frees up soldiers to participate in operations and not cause a personnel strain. Often, airborne units need to rotate their jumpers due to inadequate amount of personnel available to support the “jump”, thus putting their “jump pay/stats/status” in jeopardy. Think of it as taking care of other soldiers and being a battle buddy. After all, this mission is bigger than you!
From a personal career standpoint, soldiers who are in these types of units and qualify to become airborne can request their Chain-of-Command to fill a vacant slot and attend airborne school. If you are haphazardly assigned to an airborne unit, but cannot be airborne for whatever reason, you can always request to be assigned to a support unit on the installation and carry on with your career as normal. This is normally the case when you are assigned to installations like Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Drum in New York, Joint-Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, and Fort Campbell in Kentucky.
The next time you come up on assignment or request an assignment that involves an airborne qualification mandate, don’t fret about it. Unless you are abhorrently against the idea of being an airborne soldier, there is no shame in not being airborne, and equally there is no shame in not being qualified to be airborne.
Well, it won't negatively impact anyone’s career - unless they want it to. Being in an airborne unit, yet not being qualified, does not impact your career in any way actually. There are too many factors that limit airborne qualification. There are medical issues, such as knee problems, back problems, or not being able to pass the airborne physical for whatever reason. There’s also the modified table of equipment (MTOE) allowance; this is where soldiers are not slotted or allocated an airborne position in the unit.
Being non-airborne in an airborne unit really just means the following. When a Soldier is not in a designated airborne unit, they typically will not get a slot to attend the course. That is unless they reenlist for an airborne option that will then send them on to an airborne unit upon completion of the course.
Sometimes they may return back to the previous unit with an airborne tab, but not actively on airborne status.
The genetic makeup of the unit I was in was not airborne, but the other companies in the battalion were airborne units. We spent a lot of time supporting their airborne missions when they happened. I was assigned to the 95th Chemical Company, 6th Engineer Battalion, 2nd Engineer Brigade, 4-25 Infantry Division, located on Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson (JBER) in Alaska. Outside of being the Pacific Command asset for chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear (CBRN) matters, we also assisted the battalion with their airborne operations, ranging from providing transportation, shaking 'chutes, recovering parachutes, and other associated equipment procedures as necessary. This may be viewed as a negative thing because the word "detail" is associated with the task, but in reality it’s not. Being on this detail actually frees up soldiers to participate in operations and not cause a personnel strain. Often, airborne units need to rotate their jumpers due to inadequate amount of personnel available to support the “jump”, thus putting their “jump pay/stats/status” in jeopardy. Think of it as taking care of other soldiers and being a battle buddy. After all, this mission is bigger than you!
From a personal career standpoint, soldiers who are in these types of units and qualify to become airborne can request their Chain-of-Command to fill a vacant slot and attend airborne school. If you are haphazardly assigned to an airborne unit, but cannot be airborne for whatever reason, you can always request to be assigned to a support unit on the installation and carry on with your career as normal. This is normally the case when you are assigned to installations like Fort Bragg in North Carolina, Fort Drum in New York, Joint-Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Alaska, and Fort Campbell in Kentucky.
The next time you come up on assignment or request an assignment that involves an airborne qualification mandate, don’t fret about it. Unless you are abhorrently against the idea of being an airborne soldier, there is no shame in not being airborne, and equally there is no shame in not being qualified to be airborne.
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Responses: 33
Right, but you miss out on a lot of cool stuff like jumping, and... jumping!
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SFC Bill Snyder
Jumping out of a perfectly functioning aircraft with a parachute maybe by the lowest manufacture? Hmmmm
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What matters is the MTOE slot. Not all slots require a soldier to be jump qualified. If you are in a P slot you should go to Jump School if you want any hope of being competitive for promotion.
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I know the feeling. I serve in the 82nd Airborne Division, and being in the Combat Aviation Brigade, there is a stigma since we are non-jumpers in the Division. Once they see what we can do and how well, that stigma quickly goes away. I give respect to those who do jump, because it takes a special kind of person to look at a perfectly good airplane and say you know what sounds fun, jumping out of that.
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CW5 (Join to see)
^This. Its about doing your job that you are asked to do. Airborne school is 100% voluntary and not required of everyone on Bragg (even before FORSCOM/USARC move)
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IT'S all about "attitude!" I was assigned to Ft Campbell, KY at one time, being non-airborne...and BOY!...my life was made a "living hell!" I was finally able to get reassigned to a supporting unit...the "attitude" wasn't any better. Being a civilian now...that former-airborne soldier, who is now a veteran himself/herself, is NOT any better than I am!
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
The 101st Airborne Div is a bunch of pretenders living on the history. I heard they got rid of paratroopers long ago. Why they do not remove the airborne tab and change to an Air Mobile tab is beyond me.
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1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
MAJ Ronnie Reams - The 101st Airborne Division retains the "Airborne" tab on its unit insignia due to its historical role as an airborne unit during World War II, despite currently being an air assault division. While the division no longer conducts large-scale parachute operations, the airborne tab serves as a symbol of its heritage and distinguished past.
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My thoughts regarding airborne? "No thanks - I'll keep my back and knees for after I retire. You have fun w/ your jumps."
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1LT (Join to see)
MSG Frank Kapaun - What does that even mean, really? I'd rather have my jump wings with severe back pain and bad knees in old age than an okay back and okay knees in old age? I'm the dirtiest, nastiest leg but it's not for lack of trying. It took me 14 years to get into a unit that was willing to send me to school...and the body ain't what it was 10 years ago. Now, that I'm in a unit that would get me a slot I am worried about my back and my knees (and my hip) that bother me now but didn't back in the day. I think Soldiers that can go Airborne should but your response is not really a response to legitimate concerns about the body in old age. For all the glory of being a grunt and having wings I seldom hear anything outside of complaints from retirees about the condition of their bodies.
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MSG Frank Kapaun
1LT (Join to see) spoken like a true leg. Being airborne is like being a virgin, you either are or you aren’t. If you aren’t, nobody wants to hear why. Incidentally, I know a 57 year old COL that went and successfully completed airborne school so he could command an airborne unit.
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1LT (Join to see)
MSG Frank Kapaun - I sincerely hope you have more substance to contribute to the conversation than "spoken like a true leg." Please don't confuse yourself and think scores of people care that you jumped any more or less than people not caring (or wanting to hear) why I didn't.
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You know, I am not sure I get the point of this post... You say it wont negatively hurt your career but you fail to mention how it can positively help your career. More than likely you will be promoted ahead of your peers, more diverse duty assignments, more school and leadership options, and of course more pay.
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SFC Randy Purham
All of those things come with remaining on Airborne status. Not all Soldiers have the luck to remain on status their whole career. Its typically all about the right timing. Wouldn't you agree?
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CSM Michael Chavaree
SFC Randy Purham - Not sure, I have been on Airborne status for 13 years (my whole career)...
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SGM Robert King
CSM Michael Chavaree - A lot of people get moved off status not of their choice. You get moved according to the needs of the Army. I was moved off status after 18 years and I wasn't happy about it, but I was needed in another position, then got promoted. I felt as if I was kicked in the gut when you live and love being a Paratrooper then you sent off to LEG Land. A lot of guys that I worked with for years also got moved because of promotions Officer and Enlisted.
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Being a leg in an airborne unit means you're not going to get hurt on a jump. Bonus in my mind.... And at the end of the day, and the doo-doo totally hits the fan, if the rest of the unit is jumping into WW3, you're going with them regardless if you've been to school or not. Hope you're a quick learner..... ;o)
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SGT (Join to see)
I've met a couple of SMs that never went through jump school, but were awarded wings to frame their mustard stain.
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I was awarded an Excellence in Competion Badge and wore it on my uniform. Being a rather uncommon award, I was often asked what kind of a badge is was. Because it was earned as a Competive Leg in Pistol Competition, it was referred to as a "Leg" Badge. When I told people it was a Leg Badge, I received some rather amusing responses... Most of them to the tune of: "Damn, I didn't know you could get a badge for being a Leg!"
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I was attached to a Special Forces group as a ----legg LT. While I took crap, they needed my expertise as a linguist for their mission designated area so I got respect and especially when we did a mountainous maneuver as I was an experienced climber and backpacker.
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SFC Randy Purham
That's very cool. I understand, while lacking some of the same qualities as others, you brought qualities they lacked.
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