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Posted on Jun 7, 2016
SFC Randy Purham
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TSgt Logistics Management Specialist
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Right, but you miss out on a lot of cool stuff like jumping, and... jumping!
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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I value my knees lol.
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SFC Bill Snyder
SFC Bill Snyder
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Jumping out of a perfectly functioning aircraft with a parachute maybe by the lowest manufacture? Hmmmm
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SGM Robert King
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What matters is the MTOE slot. Not all slots require a soldier to be jump qualified. If you are in a P slot you should go to Jump School if you want any hope of being competitive for promotion.
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SSG Christopher Freeman
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I know the feeling. I serve in the 82nd Airborne Division, and being in the Combat Aviation Brigade, there is a stigma since we are non-jumpers in the Division. Once they see what we can do and how well, that stigma quickly goes away. I give respect to those who do jump, because it takes a special kind of person to look at a perfectly good airplane and say you know what sounds fun, jumping out of that.
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CW5 Regimental Chief Warrant Officer
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^This. Its about doing your job that you are asked to do. Airborne school is 100% voluntary and not required of everyone on Bragg (even before FORSCOM/USARC move)
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SFC Christopher Taggart
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IT'S all about "attitude!" I was assigned to Ft Campbell, KY at one time, being non-airborne...and BOY!...my life was made a "living hell!" I was finally able to get reassigned to a supporting unit...the "attitude" wasn't any better. Being a civilian now...that former-airborne soldier, who is now a veteran himself/herself, is NOT any better than I am!
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MAJ Ronnie Reams
MAJ Ronnie Reams
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The 101st Airborne Div is a bunch of pretenders living on the history. I heard they got rid of paratroopers long ago. Why they do not remove the airborne tab and change to an Air Mobile tab is beyond me.
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1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
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MAJ Ronnie Reams - The 101st Airborne Division retains the "Airborne" tab on its unit insignia due to its historical role as an airborne unit during World War II, despite currently being an air assault division. While the division no longer conducts large-scale parachute operations, the airborne tab serves as a symbol of its heritage and distinguished past.
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SFC Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
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My thoughts regarding airborne? "No thanks - I'll keep my back and knees for after I retire. You have fun w/ your jumps."
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MSG Frank Kapaun
MSG Frank Kapaun
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Spoken like a true “leg”
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MSG Frank Kapaun - What does that even mean, really? I'd rather have my jump wings with severe back pain and bad knees in old age than an okay back and okay knees in old age? I'm the dirtiest, nastiest leg but it's not for lack of trying. It took me 14 years to get into a unit that was willing to send me to school...and the body ain't what it was 10 years ago. Now, that I'm in a unit that would get me a slot I am worried about my back and my knees (and my hip) that bother me now but didn't back in the day. I think Soldiers that can go Airborne should but your response is not really a response to legitimate concerns about the body in old age. For all the glory of being a grunt and having wings I seldom hear anything outside of complaints from retirees about the condition of their bodies.
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MSG Frank Kapaun
MSG Frank Kapaun
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1LT (Join to see) spoken like a true leg. Being airborne is like being a virgin, you either are or you aren’t. If you aren’t, nobody wants to hear why. Incidentally, I know a 57 year old COL that went and successfully completed airborne school so he could command an airborne unit.
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MSG Frank Kapaun - I sincerely hope you have more substance to contribute to the conversation than "spoken like a true leg." Please don't confuse yourself and think scores of people care that you jumped any more or less than people not caring (or wanting to hear) why I didn't.
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CSM Michael Chavaree
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You know, I am not sure I get the point of this post... You say it wont negatively hurt your career but you fail to mention how it can positively help your career. More than likely you will be promoted ahead of your peers, more diverse duty assignments, more school and leadership options, and of course more pay.
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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All of those things come with remaining on Airborne status. Not all Soldiers have the luck to remain on status their whole career. Its typically all about the right timing. Wouldn't you agree?
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CSM Michael Chavaree
CSM Michael Chavaree
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SFC Randy Purham - Not sure, I have been on Airborne status for 13 years (my whole career)...
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SGM Robert King
SGM Robert King
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CSM Michael Chavaree - A lot of people get moved off status not of their choice. You get moved according to the needs of the Army. I was moved off status after 18 years and I wasn't happy about it, but I was needed in another position, then got promoted. I felt as if I was kicked in the gut when you live and love being a Paratrooper then you sent off to LEG Land. A lot of guys that I worked with for years also got moved because of promotions Officer and Enlisted.
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LTC Paul Labrador
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Being a leg in an airborne unit means you're not going to get hurt on a jump. Bonus in my mind.... And at the end of the day, and the doo-doo totally hits the fan, if the rest of the unit is jumping into WW3, you're going with them regardless if you've been to school or not. Hope you're a quick learner..... ;o)
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I've met a couple of SMs that never went through jump school, but were awarded wings to frame their mustard stain.
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MSG Intermediate Care Technician
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I'm a Leg....and I'm proud of it.
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1SG(P) Dean Mcbride (MPER) (SPHR)
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I was awarded an Excellence in Competion Badge and wore it on my uniform. Being a rather uncommon award, I was often asked what kind of a badge is was. Because it was earned as a Competive Leg in Pistol Competition, it was referred to as a "Leg" Badge. When I told people it was a Leg Badge, I received some rather amusing responses... Most of them to the tune of: "Damn, I didn't know you could get a badge for being a Leg!"
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1LT Peter Duston
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I was attached to a Special Forces group as a ----legg LT. While I took crap, they needed my expertise as a linguist for their mission designated area so I got respect and especially when we did a mountainous maneuver as I was an experienced climber and backpacker.
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SFC Randy Purham
SFC Randy Purham
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That's very cool. I understand, while lacking some of the same qualities as others, you brought qualities they lacked.
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