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Posted on Feb 6, 2017
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Sgt Thomas Smeltzer
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This has been investigated more then any incident in recent American history and probably as much as 911.There was bad judgement used by the Ambassador for not identifying the situation to be as bad as it was and placing him and others in danger. there is plenty of blame to go around and anytime Americans die abroad we should thoroughly investigate and while we may not like the conclusions that are found we hopefully learn and move on. Stop trying to find a scapegoat in Hillary!
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My post does not lay blame on Hilary. There was a multitude of poor judgement and bad decisions made by all including Congress.
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In my mind 'killary' & barry should be Tried for these Murders !!!
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And what about Niger?
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Sgt Stan Dickerson
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Benghazi was a CIA-STATE DEPARTMENT OPERATION AT THE AMBASSADORIAL LEVEL ABOVE EVERYBODYS PAY GRADE. THAT IS WHAT DROVE TREY GOWDYS AZZ CRAZY. AND IT WILL REMAIN SO. MOVE ON.
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SPC Jamie Smith
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I agree 100%.
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SPC John Smith
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such a complex situation. Many factors led to the deaths of those US citizens. The entirety of this incident can’t be laid at the feet of Secretary Clinton.
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But, the Majority of it rests squarely upon her & barrie's shoulders ! Peace !!!
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No, it shouldn't there is enough blame to go around including Congress.
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SPC Byron Skinner
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Sp4 Byron Skinner, I think its way past time to put the Benghazi affair behind us. Mrs. Clinton is no lone into politics and the investigations have been way out of line. The basic question is why would a US Ambassador chose 9/11 to travel in an area with known rebels and other sorts of anti government types has never been answered and I doubt it ever will. Contrary to the Rumsfeld Theory of the affairs of State the DoD and Department of State are two different entities. This issue is no longer, if it ever was relevant to anything and should be closed and the country moves on. There are plenty of issues that happen almost daily in the AO of Central Command that deserve more public attention then Benghazi.
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Marlene Hessler
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Totally agree. And, Benghazi alone disqualifies Hellary for any public office.
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You say no one will ever convince you otherwise that Sec Clinton is somehow responsible for the deaths of these people. How so?

I am in no way a fan but I am unable to connect those dots, and I was as close to the events as anyone without being there physically (disclosure - I was the watch officer).

So let me ask you a couple of things:
- who decided to leave Tripoli without informing those of us for whom that knowledge would have meant something? Hillary or Chris?
- who decided to leave his security detail behind, again? Hillary or Chris?
- what resources existed that could have responded, because believe me, we went through every possible straw that could be grasped?
- or are you one of those that believe launching an unarmed F-16 from Aviano with no refueling capability somehow would have helped?
- 29000 Army soldiers in EUCOM at the time, 400 in AFRICOM.
- more than one special operations unit in EUCOM at the time, none in AFRICOM.
- Even if you had a mechanism to trigger the transfer of these units instantaneously, how do you solve the time distance reality of geography?

I have a long list of issues I will lay at the feet of senior leaders, particularly civilian elected officials, Benghazi and the deaths of these Americans isn't one.

Cheers, Neil
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With all due respect sir I do not blame Secretary Clinton for what happened in Benghazi.
But I do believe the entire Administration and Congress do hold a great deal of responsibility for the incident. There is no denying that it was a tragic failure of leadership. Also in the run-up to the attack and the night of, the Administration was so blinded by politics and its desire to win an election, disregarded a basic duty of government and tell the people the truth.

Secretary Clinton and Ambassador Stevens both wanted a more permanent post in Benghazi. Why he left with very little as a security detail can only be answered by the Ambassador or the Secretary and that isn't going to happen.

In testimony before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, retired Air Force Brigadier General Robert Lovell (Deputy Director for Intelligence for Africa Command on the night of attacks) bluntly said about the military’s response on the night of the Benghazi attack: “The discussion is not in the ‘could or could not’ in relation to time, space and capability, the point is we should have tried.”

Yes, it might be true military assets were not in place to get to Benghazi for the initial attack. But we didn’t know how long it would last when we became aware of the distress nor did leaders completely understand what was in front of them, be it a kidnapping, rescue, recovery, protracted hostile engagement or any or all of the above.

Did the State Department ever even ask the military for backup that evening?

There is no denying if not for the courage of Glen Doherty and his team who took it upon themselves to respond, saved countless American lives because their Government leaders would not take any action to respond.
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A) I won't disagree with you about the "truth" but I find that a separate issue
B) I believe you are mistaken about the permanence of Benghazi. During Oddysey Dawn Benghazi was our first presence but once we were able to re-establish our embassy in Tripoli that was always the main effort.
C). There was no need, EVER, for the State Department to ask the military for backup. By pre-existing MOU it was already a military concern.
D). Please don't fall for the GOP BS of orders to stand down and such .... it didn't happen.

And with all respect due Lovell he wasn't in the damn FPOC when all this went down (but he did show up the next day)
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Follow on - in the fun up to this ...... Cairo was in flames, Khartoum was under lock down and the embassy staff in Tunisia were sending to their loved ones what they thought were their final selfies.

Of all the goddamned times to stay low why would the Ambo pick this day to head out and not take appropriate precaution. Again, this was not a decision over which Secretary Clinton holds any responsibility

Cheers, Neil
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Thank you for your open, informative honest responses sir! You have a great day!
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Very SAD !!!!
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