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Posted on Jun 8, 2021
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CPO Charles Helms
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On board Enterprise from 86-89 I had 5 gay sailors in my division! They hung out together 4 white sailors and a black sailor! They never went around pushing their sexuality on other sailors as they new the consequences of that! They all 5 did their jobs and advanced in the division along with every other sailor in the division! My 5 sailors answered the call every time something happened on the flight deck! Being gay or lesbian doesn't make you a bad person!
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SrA David Michael Rivas
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I'm sure the Chinese, Russian and N Korean armies are deeply concerned about the pervs as well. We were warned years ago our military would be destroyed from the inside. And this divisive carcinogen is doing it's job.
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MSgt Steve Demers
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It must be mentioned that was illegal for 233 of the 248 years of US military history to fit into any of the descriptions defined by those initials. That means that it was not only immoral and unethical, but also illegal to not report your buddy, coworker, or subordinate for being within any of these categories. Even the half-opened closet of DADT required investigation AND separation if it was determined that someone had ventured out of the closet.

The transition from illegal to celebrated demonstrates a problem where the very leaders currently demanding inclusivity had also been the ones initiating discharges. From a morals/values position leaders have to 1) have been morally conflicted towards the anti-LGBT laws and still enforced them, 2) are currently morally conflicted about the pro-LGBT laws and still agree to actively or passively enforce them, or 3) are morally malleable or ambiguous or are basically “without a moral compass” on this subject and are willing to follow any directives as long as their own pensions are secure.

This moral trap was laid out for political ends and captured all the well meaning professionals and includes every member of the military who served prior to 2009. It created insurmountable moral traps for those who attempted to ignore, isolate, or justify themselves from dealing with the policies. A leader cannot choose which rules to enforce, or be blind to what doesn’t affect them and still serve under a military governed by rules, and it shows. It encompasses nearly all the senior enlisted and officers currently making policy.

Regardless of the case of moral decision making, the veterans who served entire careers where the moral imperative was to reject those initials are not wrong to point out that there are inconsistencies where the end goal isn’t clearly a safe and secure nation, and that it’s being managed by people in uniforms which the uninformed would consider that of a warfighter whose business is to guarantee a safe and secure nation.
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Don't go out of your way to point out differences in people and then preach inclusion. The military is the one place where it doesn't matter. We come together train as one, fight as one, and if it's our time die as one. The overwhelming emotions you see at a memorial service for a fallen brother or sister isn't because they were black, Jewish, gay, or any other PERSONAL differences. when I lost a brother in Afghanistan I was torn up emotionally. It wasn't because he was Asian, Hell I could see that, It wasn't because he was a Buddhist, that was his personal choice. He was a friend, a brother whom I knew would have my six. Stop trying to divide us while preaching inclusion. The men and women standing on the line are not and never should be PC social experiments.
PO1 Mike Wallace
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What SGT. Nieto said!!!
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SPC Jesse Davis
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