Posted on Oct 26, 2022
DOD, VA move to protect post-Dobbs reproductive rights
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In the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court decision in June ending the constitutional right to where and when pregnant people can access abortion health care, the U.S. departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs moved to protect service members’ and Veterans’ reproductive rights.
In an Oct. 20 memo, Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III directed the service branches to institute policy changes dealing with issues such as health care privacy rights, support for reproductive health care providers, and access to abortion services and reproductive health education. The directives include:
• Making uniform and lengthening to 20 weeks the time that service members must notify commanders of a pregnancy, except where there are certain occupational health hazards.
• Prohibiting DOD health care providers from notifying or disclosing reproductive health information to commanders. Exceptions include risk of harm to the mission, occupational safety requirements or acute medical conditions.
• Directing commanders to be objective and discrete in addressing reproductive health care issues and to enforce policies against discrimination and retaliation in these contexts.
• Reimbursing fees to DOD health care providers who must get licensed in a different state so they can provide legal and DOD-covered abortion services.
Dobbs could impact thousands of DOD service members and personnel
DOD officials said the directives, based on the recommendations of a multidisciplinary team of experts and service members themselves, took time to formulate.
Many states, however, have moved quickly to implement the June 24 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which permits them to allow, limit or ban access to abortion. As of Oct. 13, the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Abortion Dashboard counted:
• 13 U.S. states in which abortion is illegal.
• Five states in which an abortion ban is temporarily blocked by the courts.
• Seven states in which abortion services are available but limited to 15-22 weeks of pregnancy.
• One state in which abortion is banned after six weeks of pregnancy.
• 24 states and the District of Columbia in which abortion is available.
A recent RAND analysis found that about 80,000 women on active duty — most within child-bearing age — could already or soon live in states where abortion is banned or severely limited.
“This means that 40 percent of active-duty service women in the continental United States will have no or severely restricted access to abortion services where they are stationed,” the September 2022 RAND report said. “These women make up 18 percent of the stateside total active-duty force.”
An additional 81,000 DOD civilians live in states where abortion is or will be prohibited or severely restricted, RAND estimated.
Senators called on DOD to prepare for post-Dobbs landscape
Women are the fastest-growing segment of America’s all-volunteer armed forces, making up around 17% of active-duty personnel, according to RAND.
Before Dobbs came down, eight senators called on Austin and the DOD to prepare for what they rightly predicted would become a patchwork system of abortion access. They said the decision could negatively impact national security and military readiness. It would create “a scenario where servicemembers’ reproductive and health care rights would become dependent on their duty station,” the senators said in a May 12 letter to Austin.
In issuing the latest directives, DOD officials agreed with the need to address this post-Dobbs reality.
“The practical effect of the recent changes is that service members may be forced to travel greater distances, take more time off work, and pay more out-of-pocket expenses to access reproductive health care, all of which have readiness, recruiting and retention implications for America’s armed forces,” said Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder in an Oct. 20 media briefing.
In addition to privacy protections and licensure reimbursements, the directives provide travel and transportation resources and time off allowances so service members can access reproductive health care unavailable where they serve.
DOD is also creating contraception education programs to help service members prevent unintended pregnancies. According to RAND’s report, 63.3% of service women with an unintended pregnancy were not using any form of contraception prior to the pregnancy and 32.8% were not using a reliable form of contraception.
DOD’s reproductive health education programs aim to clarify which DOD medical services are available and funded and where service members can go to request reproductive health care. DOD noted that under TRICARE, there are no co-pays for contraception services.
VA in September also clarified that Veterans who are pregnant can receive abortion counseling and abortions in limited cases.
Yet DOD, VA and other federal agencies have limited authority to provide or support abortion-related services under current law. The law bans DOD and VA from using money and facilities for most abortions. Allowable exceptions include if a pregnancy results from rape or incest or would endanger the life of the mother.
Learn more
• DOD’s reproductive rights memo: https://rly.pt/3sRjRWd
• RAND’s “How the Dobbs decision could affect U.S. National Security”: https://rly.pt/3Dy7ft6
• VA’s interim rule on abortion counseling and services: https://rly.pt/3NdBdpA
• VA’s reproductive health benefits page: https://rly.pt/3Der4UH
In an Oct. 20 memo, Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III directed the service branches to institute policy changes dealing with issues such as health care privacy rights, support for reproductive health care providers, and access to abortion services and reproductive health education. The directives include:
• Making uniform and lengthening to 20 weeks the time that service members must notify commanders of a pregnancy, except where there are certain occupational health hazards.
• Prohibiting DOD health care providers from notifying or disclosing reproductive health information to commanders. Exceptions include risk of harm to the mission, occupational safety requirements or acute medical conditions.
• Directing commanders to be objective and discrete in addressing reproductive health care issues and to enforce policies against discrimination and retaliation in these contexts.
• Reimbursing fees to DOD health care providers who must get licensed in a different state so they can provide legal and DOD-covered abortion services.
Dobbs could impact thousands of DOD service members and personnel
DOD officials said the directives, based on the recommendations of a multidisciplinary team of experts and service members themselves, took time to formulate.
Many states, however, have moved quickly to implement the June 24 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, which permits them to allow, limit or ban access to abortion. As of Oct. 13, the Kaiser Family Foundation’s Abortion Dashboard counted:
• 13 U.S. states in which abortion is illegal.
• Five states in which an abortion ban is temporarily blocked by the courts.
• Seven states in which abortion services are available but limited to 15-22 weeks of pregnancy.
• One state in which abortion is banned after six weeks of pregnancy.
• 24 states and the District of Columbia in which abortion is available.
A recent RAND analysis found that about 80,000 women on active duty — most within child-bearing age — could already or soon live in states where abortion is banned or severely limited.
“This means that 40 percent of active-duty service women in the continental United States will have no or severely restricted access to abortion services where they are stationed,” the September 2022 RAND report said. “These women make up 18 percent of the stateside total active-duty force.”
An additional 81,000 DOD civilians live in states where abortion is or will be prohibited or severely restricted, RAND estimated.
Senators called on DOD to prepare for post-Dobbs landscape
Women are the fastest-growing segment of America’s all-volunteer armed forces, making up around 17% of active-duty personnel, according to RAND.
Before Dobbs came down, eight senators called on Austin and the DOD to prepare for what they rightly predicted would become a patchwork system of abortion access. They said the decision could negatively impact national security and military readiness. It would create “a scenario where servicemembers’ reproductive and health care rights would become dependent on their duty station,” the senators said in a May 12 letter to Austin.
In issuing the latest directives, DOD officials agreed with the need to address this post-Dobbs reality.
“The practical effect of the recent changes is that service members may be forced to travel greater distances, take more time off work, and pay more out-of-pocket expenses to access reproductive health care, all of which have readiness, recruiting and retention implications for America’s armed forces,” said Pentagon Press Secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder in an Oct. 20 media briefing.
In addition to privacy protections and licensure reimbursements, the directives provide travel and transportation resources and time off allowances so service members can access reproductive health care unavailable where they serve.
DOD is also creating contraception education programs to help service members prevent unintended pregnancies. According to RAND’s report, 63.3% of service women with an unintended pregnancy were not using any form of contraception prior to the pregnancy and 32.8% were not using a reliable form of contraception.
DOD’s reproductive health education programs aim to clarify which DOD medical services are available and funded and where service members can go to request reproductive health care. DOD noted that under TRICARE, there are no co-pays for contraception services.
VA in September also clarified that Veterans who are pregnant can receive abortion counseling and abortions in limited cases.
Yet DOD, VA and other federal agencies have limited authority to provide or support abortion-related services under current law. The law bans DOD and VA from using money and facilities for most abortions. Allowable exceptions include if a pregnancy results from rape or incest or would endanger the life of the mother.
Learn more
• DOD’s reproductive rights memo: https://rly.pt/3sRjRWd
• RAND’s “How the Dobbs decision could affect U.S. National Security”: https://rly.pt/3Dy7ft6
• VA’s interim rule on abortion counseling and services: https://rly.pt/3NdBdpA
• VA’s reproductive health benefits page: https://rly.pt/3Der4UH
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Contrary to left wing propaganda, there was never a Constitutional right to infanticide. DOD should spend more resources and time on their core mission of national defense and developing warriors and less time devising schemes to end run states' rights and murder children in the womb.
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LTJG James Smith
Well said, CWO. Mr. Jones contradicts himself by properly listing life as the 1st inalienable right. He needs to explain why that right should be denied to those still in their mothers' wombs, which is where we all started. The fact that DoD is focused on killing babies instead of killing communists is just further proof of how woke ideology has emasculated our military, an example of leftist infiltration of all our institutions. None dare call it treason...
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Apparently, since the "right" to an abortion IS NOT found anywhere in the US Constitution as prescribed by the Supreme Court in their Dobbs verdict (and rightly so, as those powers not specifically listed in the Constitution to the Feds are the province of the individual States), when informing the public as to the availability of abortion services, I suggest other fitting terms to apply, rather than a "right", to describe the feeling of need for an abortion. Here's a few that come to mind: Lust, crave, pine, yearn, demand (yeah, that's a biggie), hanker, thirst, pine, etc.
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Does something have to be explicitly stated in the Constitution in order to be a right?
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"Women are the fastest-growing segment of America’s all-volunteer armed forces, making up around 17% of active-duty personnel, according to RAND."
Being that there are only two genders, if women segment is growing, then male must be declining, so that would make women the fastest and only growing segment with regard to gender. Kind of a NO-BRAINER if ya ask me, but that's just my humble opinion. :)
Being that there are only two genders, if women segment is growing, then male must be declining, so that would make women the fastest and only growing segment with regard to gender. Kind of a NO-BRAINER if ya ask me, but that's just my humble opinion. :)
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CPO David R. D.
PO3 Justin Bowen - Thank you for your input. I do base a lot of my understanding on Faith and having a basic understanding of Gospel of Jesus Christ and His doctrine. I am only sharing, I don't try to force my beliefs on anyone or try to get them to believe it. It's a personal choice. Be what you want to be, do what you want to do, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others.
God created Man and Woman in the beginning. He also created animals of all kinds, male and female and commanded them to multiply in their own sphere.
That's why we have baby animals in nature. They are doing what God created them and commanded them to do. Two men can't produce a baby naturally, two women can't produce a baby naturally, two bull elk can't produce a baby elk naturally, nor can two cow elk produce a baby naturally. I've never seen a rooster lay an egg, and I've lived on a farm with many chickens for several years. Baby ducks only happen if there are is a drake, that can fertilize a hen's eggs. We do have Scottish Highland cattle, and it takes a bull and a cow to produce a calf. Again, two bulls can't produce a calf and two cows can't produce a calf naturally. It takes one male and one female and the process works like it was intended to.
I hope you get the picture. Yes, I do understand that everything and anything can evolve, we all do, just look at history. I also believe that the physical body can have "issues" and not be perfect, we all have physical limitations and challenges that can be unique and different for each individual. Sometimes those issues our with reproduction organs. For example a girl being born with a penis. Sometimes those issues are with hearts, or livers, or kidneys. Sometimes those issues are mental, emotional, or intellectual. If you're still reading, good for you.
I also understand that people have rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the beginning, just look at Cane, he killed his brother with encouragement from Satan. I also believe that God works by the laws of science, however; His knowledge is far greater than any human. Our planet is in the perfect location to support life. Our atmosphere is made up perfectly to support life. Man could never reproduce what God has done on the scale that God has accomplished it. Humans still guess at a lot of things, and they call their guesses "theories". God doesn't work by theories, but rather perfect knowledge.
So, say what you want to say and prove what you can prove with humans' inferior knowledge of science, because at some point in the future, Christ will return and set man's and woman's inferior knowledge straight. . . . . and there will still be those that reject Him and His teachings, AGAIN, for the vain and foolish imaginations for their own desires, because God gave them that choice too.
I hope you have a great day.
God created Man and Woman in the beginning. He also created animals of all kinds, male and female and commanded them to multiply in their own sphere.
That's why we have baby animals in nature. They are doing what God created them and commanded them to do. Two men can't produce a baby naturally, two women can't produce a baby naturally, two bull elk can't produce a baby elk naturally, nor can two cow elk produce a baby naturally. I've never seen a rooster lay an egg, and I've lived on a farm with many chickens for several years. Baby ducks only happen if there are is a drake, that can fertilize a hen's eggs. We do have Scottish Highland cattle, and it takes a bull and a cow to produce a calf. Again, two bulls can't produce a calf and two cows can't produce a calf naturally. It takes one male and one female and the process works like it was intended to.
I hope you get the picture. Yes, I do understand that everything and anything can evolve, we all do, just look at history. I also believe that the physical body can have "issues" and not be perfect, we all have physical limitations and challenges that can be unique and different for each individual. Sometimes those issues our with reproduction organs. For example a girl being born with a penis. Sometimes those issues are with hearts, or livers, or kidneys. Sometimes those issues are mental, emotional, or intellectual. If you're still reading, good for you.
I also understand that people have rejected the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the beginning, just look at Cane, he killed his brother with encouragement from Satan. I also believe that God works by the laws of science, however; His knowledge is far greater than any human. Our planet is in the perfect location to support life. Our atmosphere is made up perfectly to support life. Man could never reproduce what God has done on the scale that God has accomplished it. Humans still guess at a lot of things, and they call their guesses "theories". God doesn't work by theories, but rather perfect knowledge.
So, say what you want to say and prove what you can prove with humans' inferior knowledge of science, because at some point in the future, Christ will return and set man's and woman's inferior knowledge straight. . . . . and there will still be those that reject Him and His teachings, AGAIN, for the vain and foolish imaginations for their own desires, because God gave them that choice too.
I hope you have a great day.
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PO3 Justin Bowen
The Bible says that the Semitic god of war created Adam and Eve who then went on to give birth to Cain and Abel. If the Bible is to be taken literally as opposed to as a bunch of fairy tales created to fill in the gaps in humans' understanding of natural phenomena (in other words, argument from ignorance) and provide for social norms, then the story of Cain and Abel begs the following question: After Cain killed Abel (the Bible does not mention Satan until Numbers and nowhere in the story of Cain and Abel does it say - at all - that Cain was encouraged by anyone or anything - except his own jealousy-fueled anger - to kill Abel) and, upon being exiled, went on to procreate and populate the world, with Eve being the only woman in existence at the time, did Eve first get divorced from Adam before going on to breed with her son or did she remain married to Adam while she proceeded to breed with her son?
You're free to believe in whatever you want to believe. And if people actually believed in the philosophy of live and let live, then we wouldn't even be talking about this (just like absolutely nobody is talking about legal decisions and legislation being based on Norse mythology). Judges, legislative branch politicians, and executive branch politicians have no business whatsoever basing any policies or decisions on religious mythology, which is what they are actually doing now. Additionally, people are claiming that there are only two genders - those supposedly being based on XX and XY chromosomes and thus proving that they do not at all understand the genetics of human beings (and presumably not the genetics of other animal, plant, fungi, and microbial species as well) - and demanding that laws and decisions be based on and actually having laws and decisions based on those religious beliefs and Facebook meme science.
"Our atmosphere is made up perfectly to support life."
No, it's not. That is ABSOLUTELY not true. Just in humans, without proper acclimation (and at very high altitudes it is impossible to acclimate), prolonged exposure to the atmosphere at high altitudes can easily impact human physiology and can be fatal. Anaerobic bacteria - including those found in the human body that are critical for our health - can ONLY survive in oxygen-free environments; they DIE if exposed to our atmosphere.
"Humans still guess at a lot of things, and they call their guesses "theories"."
No. That is proof of your complete lack of understanding of what theories (and presumably hypotheses and laws) are. Theories are absolutely NOT guesses. That is simply flat out not true.
Again, you're free to believe in whatever you want. And, if you actually do believe in live-and-let-live, then you clearly refrain from supporting politicians who base their actions on religious mythology. If you do support those politicians, then your actions prove that you don't actually believe in what you're claiming to believe in. One thing is ABSOLUTELY true about you though: you have FAR less understanding of science than you think you do.
You're free to believe in whatever you want to believe. And if people actually believed in the philosophy of live and let live, then we wouldn't even be talking about this (just like absolutely nobody is talking about legal decisions and legislation being based on Norse mythology). Judges, legislative branch politicians, and executive branch politicians have no business whatsoever basing any policies or decisions on religious mythology, which is what they are actually doing now. Additionally, people are claiming that there are only two genders - those supposedly being based on XX and XY chromosomes and thus proving that they do not at all understand the genetics of human beings (and presumably not the genetics of other animal, plant, fungi, and microbial species as well) - and demanding that laws and decisions be based on and actually having laws and decisions based on those religious beliefs and Facebook meme science.
"Our atmosphere is made up perfectly to support life."
No, it's not. That is ABSOLUTELY not true. Just in humans, without proper acclimation (and at very high altitudes it is impossible to acclimate), prolonged exposure to the atmosphere at high altitudes can easily impact human physiology and can be fatal. Anaerobic bacteria - including those found in the human body that are critical for our health - can ONLY survive in oxygen-free environments; they DIE if exposed to our atmosphere.
"Humans still guess at a lot of things, and they call their guesses "theories"."
No. That is proof of your complete lack of understanding of what theories (and presumably hypotheses and laws) are. Theories are absolutely NOT guesses. That is simply flat out not true.
Again, you're free to believe in whatever you want. And, if you actually do believe in live-and-let-live, then you clearly refrain from supporting politicians who base their actions on religious mythology. If you do support those politicians, then your actions prove that you don't actually believe in what you're claiming to believe in. One thing is ABSOLUTELY true about you though: you have FAR less understanding of science than you think you do.
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CPO David R. D.
PO3 Justin Bowen - Thanks again for your input, and if your opinion meant anything to me, then I may be concerned, but it really doesn't. I'm not even sure if you are of the mindset that we can just "agree to disagree", because people like you, try to force their way of life onto anyone that doesn't believe the same. It's a Democrat and Satanic way of thinking. But then again, you probably don't believe in Good Vs Evil, Right Vs Wrong, or God Vs Satan. . . . and that's ok.
What I can say, is you will be introduced to the truth when you die and meet that God that created you. . . . and you probably don't believe that either. Again, that's ok, you will have a great awakening when it happens.
Truth is Truth, whether you believe it or not.
Just my humble opinion.
What I can say, is you will be introduced to the truth when you die and meet that God that created you. . . . and you probably don't believe that either. Again, that's ok, you will have a great awakening when it happens.
Truth is Truth, whether you believe it or not.
Just my humble opinion.
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PO3 Justin Bowen
CPO David R. D. - "Thanks again for your input, and if your opinion meant anything to me, then I may be concerned, but it really doesn't."
Opinions are like a-holes: everyone - including you - has one and should be entitled to them. Like you, your opinion means nothing to me. I am not at all concerned about the myths that you believe in.
" I'm not even sure if you are of the mindset that we can just "agree to disagree", because people like you, try to force their way of life onto anyone that doesn't believe the same."
You led your comment with a statement about your ideology being dictated by your faith. It's no secret that people who promote the barbaric policies of the Republican party viz-a-viz abortion are doing so purely because of their extreme - and false - interpretation of Christianity. This is EVERYTHING, word-for-word interpreted into English, that Jesus - him being the human incarnation of the Jewish god being absolutely central to the entire Christian religion - said about abortion (prepare yourself for this long list):
" It's a Democrat and Satanic way of thinking."
Democrats aren't forcing laws based on religion (and based only on extremist interpretations of Christianity; Republicans oppose the basing of laws on the tenets of any other religion). It is literally ONLY Republicans doing that. Passing laws that bar people from oppressing other people and opposing those that Republicans are regularly proposing and passing is literally the exact opposite of forcing a way of life onto anyone. Passing laws that force anyone to give birth against their will is the absolute epitome of that ideology.
" But then again, you probably don't believe in Good Vs Evil, Right Vs Wrong, or God Vs Satan"
I do believe in good vs. evil. I believe that forcing 10-year old rape victims (or any rape victim, any victim of incest, or any woman ) to give birth against their will is absolutely evil. I believe that treating LGBTQ people as anything other than absolute equals to non-LGBTQ people is evil. I absolutely do believe in good vs. evil. I also believe that it is the duty of every person who does not believe in oppression based on religion to fight the evil ideologies of Republicans that want to force anyone they hate to live in the shadows and in fear for their lives.
I also believe in right vs. wrong. See above.
And no, I don't believe in the Semitic god of war vs. the Semitic demigod..because I don't believe in the Christian mythology. I don't believe in the mythology of other Semitic religions. I don't believe in Norse mythology. I don't believe in Hindu mythology. I don't believe that The Lord of the Rings is true. I don't believe in Star Wars. And on and on and on. Unlike you, I believe that all the religions that you don't believe in and one more besides those are nothing but myths. The ONLY difference between you and I is the hubris that leads you to believe that your religion is superior to and more true than others.
"What I can say, is you will be introduced to the truth when you die and meet that God that created you"
NO, I won't. I'll either be buried, cremated, or returned to nature in some other manner and that will either come at the hands of those who survive me or as a result of a natural cause in a place where humans do not find my body). That is literally what and all that will happen to me.
"Truth is Truth, whether you believe it or not."
Myths are not truth. The definition of the word centers around that which is imaginary. I don't believe that imaginary beings and every claim that stems from that belief are "Truth".
People are (but increasingly not so in the US) free to believe in whatever they want (including a religion where the creation myth's reference to human origins involves incest and either divorce or adultery (how unsurprising that you refuse to address the fact that, in the Jewish creation myth, Eve had sexual intercourse with her own son supposedly while married to her son's father). They should not, however, be allowed to force their religious beliefs - including their beliefs about abortion that, as Christians, are not in any way whatsoever based on anything that Jesus said - on anyone else.
"Just my humble opinion."
See my initial comment about opinions and a-holes.
Opinions are like a-holes: everyone - including you - has one and should be entitled to them. Like you, your opinion means nothing to me. I am not at all concerned about the myths that you believe in.
" I'm not even sure if you are of the mindset that we can just "agree to disagree", because people like you, try to force their way of life onto anyone that doesn't believe the same."
You led your comment with a statement about your ideology being dictated by your faith. It's no secret that people who promote the barbaric policies of the Republican party viz-a-viz abortion are doing so purely because of their extreme - and false - interpretation of Christianity. This is EVERYTHING, word-for-word interpreted into English, that Jesus - him being the human incarnation of the Jewish god being absolutely central to the entire Christian religion - said about abortion (prepare yourself for this long list):
" It's a Democrat and Satanic way of thinking."
Democrats aren't forcing laws based on religion (and based only on extremist interpretations of Christianity; Republicans oppose the basing of laws on the tenets of any other religion). It is literally ONLY Republicans doing that. Passing laws that bar people from oppressing other people and opposing those that Republicans are regularly proposing and passing is literally the exact opposite of forcing a way of life onto anyone. Passing laws that force anyone to give birth against their will is the absolute epitome of that ideology.
" But then again, you probably don't believe in Good Vs Evil, Right Vs Wrong, or God Vs Satan"
I do believe in good vs. evil. I believe that forcing 10-year old rape victims (or any rape victim, any victim of incest, or any woman ) to give birth against their will is absolutely evil. I believe that treating LGBTQ people as anything other than absolute equals to non-LGBTQ people is evil. I absolutely do believe in good vs. evil. I also believe that it is the duty of every person who does not believe in oppression based on religion to fight the evil ideologies of Republicans that want to force anyone they hate to live in the shadows and in fear for their lives.
I also believe in right vs. wrong. See above.
And no, I don't believe in the Semitic god of war vs. the Semitic demigod..because I don't believe in the Christian mythology. I don't believe in the mythology of other Semitic religions. I don't believe in Norse mythology. I don't believe in Hindu mythology. I don't believe that The Lord of the Rings is true. I don't believe in Star Wars. And on and on and on. Unlike you, I believe that all the religions that you don't believe in and one more besides those are nothing but myths. The ONLY difference between you and I is the hubris that leads you to believe that your religion is superior to and more true than others.
"What I can say, is you will be introduced to the truth when you die and meet that God that created you"
NO, I won't. I'll either be buried, cremated, or returned to nature in some other manner and that will either come at the hands of those who survive me or as a result of a natural cause in a place where humans do not find my body). That is literally what and all that will happen to me.
"Truth is Truth, whether you believe it or not."
Myths are not truth. The definition of the word centers around that which is imaginary. I don't believe that imaginary beings and every claim that stems from that belief are "Truth".
People are (but increasingly not so in the US) free to believe in whatever they want (including a religion where the creation myth's reference to human origins involves incest and either divorce or adultery (how unsurprising that you refuse to address the fact that, in the Jewish creation myth, Eve had sexual intercourse with her own son supposedly while married to her son's father). They should not, however, be allowed to force their religious beliefs - including their beliefs about abortion that, as Christians, are not in any way whatsoever based on anything that Jesus said - on anyone else.
"Just my humble opinion."
See my initial comment about opinions and a-holes.
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