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It has been said that if a soldier is not complaining to you, then your soldiers do not trust you. So many people think that “everything sucks” for them. Today’s soldiers focus on everything they don’t have instead of everything they are privileged to have. I am currently deployed on my fifth combat tour as the Provost Sergeant in Bagram, Afghanistan. The biggest complaints that I have heard in recent weeks are how sub-standard the living conditions are, how slow the internet is, and how junky the non-tactical vehicles are.
During my last tour, I slept in a tent with seven other soldiers. Some of them snored so loud that they drowned out the noise of the air conditioner; other soldiers were labeled as the stinky kids, and others needed company so desperately that they would knock on the door constantly to see what people were doing. And, without fail, the wind would pound against the tent, night or day, for 100 days at a time.
Currently, I live in quarters that are makeshift storage containers (connex boxes); these buildings compete for quality with low-income, stateside apartments. My bed is a standard-size, twin bed with the same frame that my son sleeps on; I get to use linens just like he does. Now I have a hard structure to sleep in, with only one roommate; my junior soldiers only have three people to a room, max. There are indoor restrooms within three doors of all rooms, regardless of where you are on base - that sure beats walking in flip flops through sand or rocks in the middle of the night.
Even with all the improvements to living conditions, “everything sucks” for soldiers.
In 2007 or 2008, I was forced to stand in line outside a trailer for 30 minutes in order to use the phone or check my email. I remember phone conversations with my family; after I spoke, my wife would hear the words two minutes later. There were often nineteen other soldiers in the same trailer trying to talk on the phone at the same time. Often, we found ourselves shoulder to shoulder or back to back, jockeying for position. I remember soldiers would complain back then because of the lines being so long; however, in today’s operational environment, soldiers are walking around with cell phones in the middle of a war. They get the opportunity to FaceTime, Skype, or instant message anyone and everyone back home. Yet, there are still the complaints of how slow the internet speed is. Looking back at how conditions were only a decade ago, these complaints are truly mind boggling.
Having junky Non Tactical Vehicles (NTVs) is another complaint heard through the base. A NTV is a basic car - basically anything other than a military vehicle. There are thousands of NTVs located on post for general transportation. Yes, it is far to walk if you travel to the opposite side of the base; however, most people are placed within 400 meters from where they work to where their barracks are. There are dining facilities located within walking distance from any point, yet still people insist on the need to drive everywhere. They drive the 400 meters to work, and then they drive down the street to go eat. It’s insanity.
There has been a weight problem in the military for a few years now - perhaps people will start putting two and two together and realize that all the driving is an issue. During my initial four tours, I walked everywhere I went; NTVs were not even an option. Now, military police are responding to minor traffic accidents and pedestrians being struck by vehicles. All of these vehicles are just serving to convenience laziness.
We’ve been at war for over a decade, nine months at a time. There have been great leaps and bounds in technology that have improved the quality of life while forward deployed. Consider for a second that you can fly across the United States in six hours! How many weeks did it take our ancestors? Or even our parents? And still, the plane seats are uncomfortable and the Wi-Fi doesn’t work. Complain, complain, complain. In order to combat the “everything sucks” mentality, leaders need to lead from their position with an attitude of gratitude. Soldiers don’t know what they don’t know.
During my last tour, I slept in a tent with seven other soldiers. Some of them snored so loud that they drowned out the noise of the air conditioner; other soldiers were labeled as the stinky kids, and others needed company so desperately that they would knock on the door constantly to see what people were doing. And, without fail, the wind would pound against the tent, night or day, for 100 days at a time.
Currently, I live in quarters that are makeshift storage containers (connex boxes); these buildings compete for quality with low-income, stateside apartments. My bed is a standard-size, twin bed with the same frame that my son sleeps on; I get to use linens just like he does. Now I have a hard structure to sleep in, with only one roommate; my junior soldiers only have three people to a room, max. There are indoor restrooms within three doors of all rooms, regardless of where you are on base - that sure beats walking in flip flops through sand or rocks in the middle of the night.
Even with all the improvements to living conditions, “everything sucks” for soldiers.
In 2007 or 2008, I was forced to stand in line outside a trailer for 30 minutes in order to use the phone or check my email. I remember phone conversations with my family; after I spoke, my wife would hear the words two minutes later. There were often nineteen other soldiers in the same trailer trying to talk on the phone at the same time. Often, we found ourselves shoulder to shoulder or back to back, jockeying for position. I remember soldiers would complain back then because of the lines being so long; however, in today’s operational environment, soldiers are walking around with cell phones in the middle of a war. They get the opportunity to FaceTime, Skype, or instant message anyone and everyone back home. Yet, there are still the complaints of how slow the internet speed is. Looking back at how conditions were only a decade ago, these complaints are truly mind boggling.
Having junky Non Tactical Vehicles (NTVs) is another complaint heard through the base. A NTV is a basic car - basically anything other than a military vehicle. There are thousands of NTVs located on post for general transportation. Yes, it is far to walk if you travel to the opposite side of the base; however, most people are placed within 400 meters from where they work to where their barracks are. There are dining facilities located within walking distance from any point, yet still people insist on the need to drive everywhere. They drive the 400 meters to work, and then they drive down the street to go eat. It’s insanity.
There has been a weight problem in the military for a few years now - perhaps people will start putting two and two together and realize that all the driving is an issue. During my initial four tours, I walked everywhere I went; NTVs were not even an option. Now, military police are responding to minor traffic accidents and pedestrians being struck by vehicles. All of these vehicles are just serving to convenience laziness.
We’ve been at war for over a decade, nine months at a time. There have been great leaps and bounds in technology that have improved the quality of life while forward deployed. Consider for a second that you can fly across the United States in six hours! How many weeks did it take our ancestors? Or even our parents? And still, the plane seats are uncomfortable and the Wi-Fi doesn’t work. Complain, complain, complain. In order to combat the “everything sucks” mentality, leaders need to lead from their position with an attitude of gratitude. Soldiers don’t know what they don’t know.
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SFC Pratt, respectfully I do not concur that statement somewhat. I will agree it builds character and strengthens a persons fortitude. But some of these memories are just as painful as the experience. However the experience listed above in a war zone is supposed to be tough and I would agree it does make for some good memories. Also, the pampering in a war zone needs to stop, I agree with 1SG that soldiers need to toughen up in a combat zone and stop complaining over stupid shit.
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MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera , I will say this.....When I was in Iraq.....I was just stoked happy as all get out that I had the ability to have internet. I was even more stoked when my team was finally given a vehicle to use for our missions. I'm happy as a clam with what I have. Could I have more to do more, certainly.....but I make do with what I have when I don't have that little extra amenity.
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If anyone should complain it will George Washington's soldiers. They had no tents for the winters, no shoes for some, no pay, and very little to eat. What is the MOS of these complainers?
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PO1 Brian Austin
They did have it seriously rough. I think many of them were down to boiling leather for something to eat.
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I remember those days too. The good part is that I know I can live anywhere with anybody and be OK.
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MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera Sadly what you say is true, no data on how widespread these entitlement-type attitudes are or where they came from, but it is sad to see this in our warriors who are over there willing to die for our ideals or in support of the mission, sink so low as we complain about the soft ice cream machine is broken. Offer them a power bar and maybe they'll be happy for a short while.
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MSG(P) Rafael Aguilera Excellent post. Vietnam was bad, but we endured. Folks in the military should appreciate all that they do have. if nothing else, they should be thankful for their fellow brothers and sisters.
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MSG Christopher Chouinard - Thank you for your many years of service Master Sergeant.
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this is a great post. When Soldiers are quiet, you have a problem. As a squad leader in the 101st, my Soldiers often complained about trivial things. What i learned is that if I listened, I could get a good feel of the pulse of the squad. Quiet and disconnected usually equaled major issues that nobody wanted to talk about.
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SGT Eric Knutson
Don't forget sir that for many of the troops, whining is also just a sport, it is the only thing we could do that we didn't get in trouble for. (of course in the units I was with, you did the whining while getting the job done, unless it was a tactical thing, then you just shut up and soldier on)
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Both of my Iraq deployments I had an "ntv", it was called a bicycle! It was either that or walk unless you wanted to wait for a bus....if you had time to wait at all.
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SGT William Howell
BAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You said busssss! I think I just blew coffee out my nose. The places I lived you could throw a rock from one side of the base to the other. Bicycles! How did you ride them on the giant gravel? I suppose you rode it to the dance club or the PX? Man you had it rough. Not sure why other branches make fun of the AF. You guys lived like cavemen.
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SGT William Howell - I was a SPC back then, 15U. My location had gravel in a lot of places, dirt roads and paths in others. Px, food court and a hadji mart was about it.
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I believe this falls under the people are at their best when things are worst etc. When we first rolled in country the conditions were as you'd expect ... austere. But the troops focused on the mission and life went one. The cries of "this sucks" were usually followed by another repeating the lines of one of my favorite cartoons, "I like the way this sucks" and of course "I wish it would suck more". Morale was great! Team cohesion awesome!
It wasn't until we started getting those circus tents with the crazy strong AC and other luxuries that the jocular "this sucks" started to be followed by "ya what the f***?!?!"
On my second tour, all the luxuries and amenities were in place from the get go. I can't say as I ever felt the camaraderie on that second time that was achieved the first time.
It wasn't until we started getting those circus tents with the crazy strong AC and other luxuries that the jocular "this sucks" started to be followed by "ya what the f***?!?!"
On my second tour, all the luxuries and amenities were in place from the get go. I can't say as I ever felt the camaraderie on that second time that was achieved the first time.
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