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Posted on Mar 26, 2021
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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I have heard that the buns or pulled up gives headaches...plus it is difficult to wear caps and combat headgear. I am all for it...makes operational sense. Foreign governments have been doing this for a long time. Don't know if it helps with retention...changing hair styles and breastfeeding changes etc aren't the issues I am hearing about...I am hearing about sexual assault, harassment, just overall treatment of women in the ranks. Until we get that addressed and under some sort of control, hair styles etc won't mean a hill of beans...I don't think I will ever hear someone say "they let me keep my hair long so I am going to reup!" IMHO.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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MAJ (Join to see) But in a fighter/tanker/helo helmet or in garrison it makes perfect sense. Plust it has worked for the Israelis with no known issues and to me honest I don't think I would want to go hand to hand combat with one of them.
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SGT Mary G.
SGT Mary G.
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The article stated the hair must still not "go beyond the collar". That means that long hair, while allowable, must be "up" in a way that does not interfere with head gear. I had long hair. I braided it, and secured the braid up, to the back of my head. It was never a problem, always stayed in place, and did not interfere with any headgear. I can not envision how a pony tail would not go beyond the collar or that it would not interfere with headgear.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SGT Mary G. our female pilots live the idea of a ponytail...when they step to a jet and put on that flight helmet, they have to let their hair down anyway to wear the full helmet...before the change they would take it down, ho fly, and before they left the jet they would put it back up to walk in the squadron...same with chem gear...now I don't see it interfering with a combat helmet but I am bald so I have no say in that.
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Agree 100% regarding assault & harassment. This post is about uniforms & grooming, not crime, but the ongoing scourge of violence and intimidation against our own team members remains unsolved. I thought about as fratricide - intentionally harming members of your own team.
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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Beards for male Soldier will eventually be allowed at this rate, to bad I retired that would have been fun to watch a CSM explode :) Maybe even ponytails for male Soldiers, no more high and tights. Oh brave new world.
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A1C Alexa Cosson
A1C Alexa Cosson
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Just can't imagine Man Buns on soldiers, much less Marines!
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PO1 Rick Nakroshis
PO1 Rick Nakroshis
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A1C Alexa Cosson - The thought of a "high and tight" man bun stopped me in my tracks.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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I'm not sure this promotes retention or recruitment but it does seem reasonable
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SFC Ait Instructor
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From my personal experience being able to wear posted earrings, having different "relaxed" hair styles and doing up my nails isn't making me want to stay in.

I appreciate the changes, but it's not the reason I'm pushing for the next eight years. My female trainees are loving it, but as we change generations we might see these changes help in a larger scope.
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TSgt Ann Smith
TSgt Ann Smith
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SFC (Join to see) - the AF has ALWAYS had the privilege to try and look like a girl in that baggy uniform.
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1stSgt Nelson Kerr
1stSgt Nelson Kerr
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It can't hurt those thing, or the mission and makes for happier troops at zero cost
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