Posted on Mar 8, 2018
Maj Gen Robert Worley, Director of Education Services at the VA, here for a live Q&A March 13th at 3pm ET. What questions do you have?
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Maj Gen Robert Worley is here to discuss the changes to education benefits in the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Act/Forever GI Bill.
Robert M. Worley II was appointed Director of Education Service on March 29, 2012. In this capacity, Mr. Worley provides executive level oversight in the department for policy, planning, integration, and delivery of education program benefits administered by the Veterans Benefits Administration.
Prior to this current assignment, he served as the Director of Programs, Deputy Chief of Staff for Strategic Plans and Programs, Headquarters Air Force, Washington, D.C. In this capacity, Mr. Worley was responsible for developing, integrating, and analyzing the Air Force future budget program of $600B across the Future Years Defense Program.
Mr. Worley has held numerous leadership positions leading military space operations to include intercontinental ballistic missile, satellite command/control, space surveillance, missile warning, and satellite launch operations. He retired from the United States Air Force in the grade of Major General in 2011. His military decorations include the Distinguished Service Medal and the Legion of Merit with two oak leaf clusters. His civilian awards include the Distinguished Presidential Rank Award for 2017.
Maj Gen Robert Worley is here to discuss the changes to education benefits in the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Act/Forever GI Bill.
Robert M. Worley II was appointed Director of Education Service on March 29, 2012. In this capacity, Mr. Worley provides executive level oversight in the department for policy, planning, integration, and delivery of education program benefits administered by the Veterans Benefits Administration.
Prior to this current assignment, he served as the Director of Programs, Deputy Chief of Staff for Strategic Plans and Programs, Headquarters Air Force, Washington, D.C. In this capacity, Mr. Worley was responsible for developing, integrating, and analyzing the Air Force future budget program of $600B across the Future Years Defense Program.
Mr. Worley has held numerous leadership positions leading military space operations to include intercontinental ballistic missile, satellite command/control, space surveillance, missile warning, and satellite launch operations. He retired from the United States Air Force in the grade of Major General in 2011. His military decorations include the Distinguished Service Medal and the Legion of Merit with two oak leaf clusters. His civilian awards include the Distinguished Presidential Rank Award for 2017.
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Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired, thank you for joining us on RallyPoint. For all service members who are considering a transition to civilian life or those who are already in the process of planning for it, what are the most valuable but underutilized education benefits you see that we should all be using more of as a Veteran community?
Thank you for coming to RP Sir. My questions to you are in the IT certifications field. Why can't the veteran be paired with an IT mentor along with his Voc Rehab counselor?. It would make explaining the situation easier to stomach from the counselors perspective why a certain cert is required in the field vs being bean counters pushing college degrees. The old IAT/IAM model helped before, but even that was hard to explain to my counselor after awhile. She was HR not IT. Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP) to me is one of the hardest classes to take and at the end, has a mental grinder of a test (six hours long) that most do not pass even on their second and third tries. The instructors even mention that fact in class. If there was an IT mentor the IAT/IAM model would've been a non-issue, and after collaborating on what to take based on the job wanted, he/she again would tell the counselor this is how it is and works. You could end up in that (or another class for the fifth time, but it is counting against your GI Bill. That should also be explained). My second on the certs is, different states allow different certs to be taken and approved by Voc Rehab. This could've changed since my example got his. My next example would be Certified Ethical Hacker or CEH. At the time, CEH was not on the approved list of certs to have, but was in high demand. The school knew this, and rather than pass on the chance to get another certification to the troop, the troop signed up for another certification yet sat in on CEH, passed it, and is now working in the Pentagon. This goes back to having mentors from major industries to interpret and guide troops through based on the type of job they are looking to do rather than having a counselor who is overburdened and might not even have a clue as to what is really needed in a particular field try to use VA regs to tell someone yes or no on a cert.
While I mention IT in this, it's not just an IT thing. It can apply to fields like mechanic to HR. Degree's are important, but when looking at jobs, you don't always see what type of degree is required (it'll usually say degree wanted or so many years experience), but you WILL see what kind of certs are required. Need to change the mindset to support what's needed vs perceived across the spectrum. Thank you again Sir for coming to RP.
While I mention IT in this, it's not just an IT thing. It can apply to fields like mechanic to HR. Degree's are important, but when looking at jobs, you don't always see what type of degree is required (it'll usually say degree wanted or so many years experience), but you WILL see what kind of certs are required. Need to change the mindset to support what's needed vs perceived across the spectrum. Thank you again Sir for coming to RP.
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
A comprehensive evaluation is commonly done based on your interest, aptitudes and abilities under the CH31 program. We can forward your question to the VR&E program for further follow-up.
Maj Gen Worley. On a 100% Disability rating, its my understanding educational Benefits are available to that Veteran. Do they need to carry a certain amount of credits (full time) or can they do a class here and there. Like an art class? Can they start stop and resume or does it need to be in a continued basis. One fell swoop? Thank you and have an amazing day!
PFC Sandra Wade
SSG Warren Swan - Thank you for considering my question. I have not tried Voc Rehab... I am not sure I can work now. I am also 100%.... look forward to the Gen's response.
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
Your disability rating doesn’t affect your GI Bill benefits but may give you eligibility for the Vocational Rehabilitation and Employment benefit. If you do have GI Bill eligibility, something you can find help figuring out here, you have to follow an approved program – so you can’t just take classes, you have to work towards a certificate, degree, etc.
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
SSG Warren Swan - Thank you for recommending the VR&E Program. The program is a valuable resource for Veterans with a service-connected and an employment handicap to help them prepare for, obtain. and maintain employment. Please visit https://www.vets.gov/employment/vocational-rehab-and-employment/
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PFC Sandra Wade
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired - Thank you for the response and making the research available
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired If you have used all of your GI Bill Benefits, to include the Post 911 GI Bill Benefits that I transferred to my daughters, are there any benefits in the Harry W. Colmery Veterans Educational Act/Forever GI Bill that I can use into (or) I'm not eligible?
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
If you left service after January 1, 2013, your daughters may have an indefinite time to use your benefits. The Colmery Act isn’t a new GI Bill but makes changes to the existing GI Bill. You might want to take a look at the changes here and see how you and your family can best take advantage of the changes.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired - Sir I retried after 37 years as a Reserve Colonel on 1 February 2012, so I guess there are no additional benefits
Hello everyone...I'm really happy to have this chance to answer questions on the Forever GI Bill.
Good day sir, My question today is twofold based on my personal experience with the Post 9/11 GI Bill. First I have been in the military continuously since 1982. I joined as an enlisted soldier and fully participated in the VEAP matching program and ended up coming off two years of active duty with 15,200. for collage. I used a portion for a semester of pre engineering and then a year of technical school and had some money left when I was finished. Many years later I was mobilized several times and became eligible for the full Post 9/11 education funding. My family made the decision to use this for my daughter towards her four year degree and started all the paperwork with her school to get it set up. What happened during the course of getting my benefits transferred to her was a representative from the VA reached out to me to share that the money I used during my VEAP days would be taken away month for month from my Post 9/11 program as I was only entitled to use the program to equivalent of 4 full years of education. That left my daughter with her spring semester of her senior year to be funded by her or loans. The good news is her school is a yellow ribbon participant so she should be okay to finish without any out of pocket expenses.
First question is why was this information not made clearer and more easier to understand for me beforehand? I think all the particulars of the several different educational programs should be made available to military members and veterans in an easy to you guide or reference chart. It could make a huge difference in determining where to attend school.
Second question is as a warrant officer I am suppose to be a subject matter expert in my particular field and be the go to person for help in finding out answers to me soldiers and leaders questions, was there some portal or document that I somehow missed when exploring the Post 9/11 that you could share to lesson the burden on future participants in the post 9/11 program?
First question is why was this information not made clearer and more easier to understand for me beforehand? I think all the particulars of the several different educational programs should be made available to military members and veterans in an easy to you guide or reference chart. It could make a huge difference in determining where to attend school.
Second question is as a warrant officer I am suppose to be a subject matter expert in my particular field and be the go to person for help in finding out answers to me soldiers and leaders questions, was there some portal or document that I somehow missed when exploring the Post 9/11 that you could share to lesson the burden on future participants in the post 9/11 program?
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
We do try to make the benefit requirements and rules apparent on our GI Bill website and highlight different aspects of the law via our GI Bill Facebook page to keep Veterans informed. VA has also made some improvements in the Transition Assistance Program that is no longer a “death by PowerPoint” presentation, and takes place over a few days rather than everything at once. I’m glad to hear your daughter is taking advantage of the Yellow Ribbon program and will be graduating soon!
My question is how the BAH changes are going to be implemented. As a medical student, we are sent on clinical rotations away from the campus we attend, will we receive BAH based on where we rotate or where the school is located?
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
Effective August 1, 2018, the Colmery Act requires VA to calculate housing based on the location of the campus where you attend the majority of classes. Internships, externships, practicums, and residency sites are included in the definition of “campus.” That means if you are physically attending the majority of your time at such a site, your housing will be based on that site’s zip code.
Thanks for joining us, Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired. It’s great to see a fellow AFSPC warrior on RallyPoint.
My question: What important changes or added value to our education benifits are on the horizon?
My question: What important changes or added value to our education benifits are on the horizon?
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
Brandon, the biggest thing going on right now is the implementation of the Colmery Act, also known as the Forever GI Bill....the most sweeping set of improvements to the Post 9/11 GI Bill since the Post 9/11 GI Bill started in 2009. You can read a lot more on the GI Bill website.
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired: I have questions Major General....But, first of all I WOULD LIKE TO GREATLY THANK YOU FOR YOUR HIGHLY HONORABLE PRESENCE WITH US HERE ON RALLY POINT!
Sir, could I take courses from the VA: both- online and at home? Also, Major General Worley: I would like to take VA courses part-time.
Would these be possibilities for me at all, Sir?
THANK YOU BEYOND KINDLY, MAJOR GENERAL WORLEY, FOR YOUR TIME, PATIENCE AND, FOR LISTENING TO ME.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MAJOR GENERAL, FOR HONORING US WITH YOUR HONORABLE PRESENCE; RIGHT HERE ON RALLY POINT!
I would like to most sincerely thank you for your attention to my questions, Sir.
-Margaret C. Higgins U.S. Army Retired: Coach (of Facebook groups)/Photographer
Sir, could I take courses from the VA: both- online and at home? Also, Major General Worley: I would like to take VA courses part-time.
Would these be possibilities for me at all, Sir?
THANK YOU BEYOND KINDLY, MAJOR GENERAL WORLEY, FOR YOUR TIME, PATIENCE AND, FOR LISTENING TO ME.
THANK YOU AGAIN, MAJOR GENERAL, FOR HONORING US WITH YOUR HONORABLE PRESENCE; RIGHT HERE ON RALLY POINT!
I would like to most sincerely thank you for your attention to my questions, Sir.
-Margaret C. Higgins U.S. Army Retired: Coach (of Facebook groups)/Photographer
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
Most approved programs (a list of approved schools and programs can be found at https://inquiry.vba.va.gov/weamspub/buildSearchCountryCriteria.do) can be taken online and on a part-time basis. Talk to your school’s School Certifying Official for specific information on the program you would like to take. Please also keep in mind that taking all your classes online affects your housing allowance if you are using the Post-9/11 GI Bill. Your housing is lower if you attend only online vs attending at least one class in person. If you only attend school part-time, you will receive a prorated payment. Payment rates for VA Education Benefits can be found at https://www.benefits.va.gov/GIBILL/resources/benefits_resources/rate_tables.asp).
You may want to take a look at the GI Bill Comparison Tool: https://www.vets.gov/gi-bill-comparison-tool.
If you have not done so already, you will want to submit an application and apply for Education Benefits in order to receive a Certificate of Eligibility.
You may want to take a look at the GI Bill Comparison Tool: https://www.vets.gov/gi-bill-comparison-tool.
If you have not done so already, you will want to submit an application and apply for Education Benefits in order to receive a Certificate of Eligibility.
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No questions General, just a big thank you for your helping veterans and service members with on going education.
Maj Gen Robert M. Worley II, USAF Retired
David, thanks for the kudos...it's an honor for me and my team here in VA to continue to help Veterans, Servicemembers, and families use and maximize their educational benefits.
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