Posted on Sep 6, 2014
National Guard Units Are Being Affected By Budget Shortfalls
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"If you have to lose 18 pounds, you can change your diet and exercise, or simply cut off your head," asserted Lt. Gen. Steven Blum, a former National Guard Bureau Chief.
Homeland Defense’s Paul McHale, former Assistant Secretary of Defense, while speaking at the Heritage Foundation warned that, "It's very likely that 20,000 National Guard troops will be cut." McHale added that the Army will have to relocate some of its funding and support the National Guard with the shrinking budgets.
Both the retired officers believe extensive budget cuts like these would not only put the National Guard’s domestic readiness at risk but also the national security of the country.
The Army National Guard units from all 50 states and four territories are bearing the brunt of a budgetary shortfall of $101 million at a national level. Thousands of soldiers belonging to the Army of National Guards in Wisconsin State have had their trainings delayed, with their counterparts in Ohio and Delaware following closely.
The Delaware News Journal quotes Delaware’s top officer, Maj. Gen. Frank Vavala: “September training has been called off for the state’s soldiers to make up for the sins of others.”
With more troops stationed at home, this situation has further strained the budget. Captain John Fesler said the Guard's national shortfall came from fewer mobilizations and more training sessions than expected over the past year.
National Guard members are paid anywhere from $284 to $726 for a weekend of training, depending on their ranks and years of service. The decision to stall or cancel their trainings hurts them economically and disrupts in their social and family lives. These guards are technically used as reserve armed forces by the president and state governors to help deal with state emergencies like civil unrest or natural disasters and sometimes for military action.
As soon as Ohio Governor John Kasich declared a state of emergency in three of Ohio’s counties last month, the National Guard delivered clean drinking water and water purification systems. Similarly in Missouri, last month, after the killing of an unarmed black man by a white police officer, protests got out of hand. The Missouri Guard members were then called in to help deal with violent protesters and keep the situation under control.
According to National Guard Bureau, after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, around 500,000 guard members have been sent on federal missions to date, including overseas combat duties as well.
Overall, the National Guard Bureau is looking to reprogram other available year-end funds.
If the Pentagon decides to cut funding in areas of equipment and facilities, then this would result in less-trained, less-equipped personnel and longer response periods. Congress has some tough decisions to make.
Homeland Defense’s Paul McHale, former Assistant Secretary of Defense, while speaking at the Heritage Foundation warned that, "It's very likely that 20,000 National Guard troops will be cut." McHale added that the Army will have to relocate some of its funding and support the National Guard with the shrinking budgets.
Both the retired officers believe extensive budget cuts like these would not only put the National Guard’s domestic readiness at risk but also the national security of the country.
The Army National Guard units from all 50 states and four territories are bearing the brunt of a budgetary shortfall of $101 million at a national level. Thousands of soldiers belonging to the Army of National Guards in Wisconsin State have had their trainings delayed, with their counterparts in Ohio and Delaware following closely.
The Delaware News Journal quotes Delaware’s top officer, Maj. Gen. Frank Vavala: “September training has been called off for the state’s soldiers to make up for the sins of others.”
With more troops stationed at home, this situation has further strained the budget. Captain John Fesler said the Guard's national shortfall came from fewer mobilizations and more training sessions than expected over the past year.
National Guard members are paid anywhere from $284 to $726 for a weekend of training, depending on their ranks and years of service. The decision to stall or cancel their trainings hurts them economically and disrupts in their social and family lives. These guards are technically used as reserve armed forces by the president and state governors to help deal with state emergencies like civil unrest or natural disasters and sometimes for military action.
As soon as Ohio Governor John Kasich declared a state of emergency in three of Ohio’s counties last month, the National Guard delivered clean drinking water and water purification systems. Similarly in Missouri, last month, after the killing of an unarmed black man by a white police officer, protests got out of hand. The Missouri Guard members were then called in to help deal with violent protesters and keep the situation under control.
According to National Guard Bureau, after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, around 500,000 guard members have been sent on federal missions to date, including overseas combat duties as well.
Overall, the National Guard Bureau is looking to reprogram other available year-end funds.
If the Pentagon decides to cut funding in areas of equipment and facilities, then this would result in less-trained, less-equipped personnel and longer response periods. Congress has some tough decisions to make.
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Let's stop giving aid to the enemy and fund our units. It is sad to see this happening again. When we will learn from Task Force Smith?????
The often-used phrase "No more Task Force Smiths." This catchphrase is used to express a desire to avoid the perceived mistakes that lead to the defeat of Task Force Smith during the Korean War, July 1950. It deployed and was decimated by the North Korean advance. The defeat has generally been blamed on poor training, poor leadership and poor equipment.
The often-used phrase "No more Task Force Smiths." This catchphrase is used to express a desire to avoid the perceived mistakes that lead to the defeat of Task Force Smith during the Korean War, July 1950. It deployed and was decimated by the North Korean advance. The defeat has generally been blamed on poor training, poor leadership and poor equipment.
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Funny how we never run out of money for aid to the illegals or the presidential vacation budget. Since the national average annual budget deficit is about a trillion a year and the funding for many projects have been cut back, where is the money going?
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Sgt Packy Flickinger
1LT(P) (Join to see) It was meant to be sarcastic about the amount of money we waste on other things as opposed to important things. Its not about an arguement but rather a joke.
That being said if youre going to quote me, I never said anything about presidential protection. "Border security" still falls under the "aid to illegals" comment since in this day and age, they are the same thing. Help any?
The deficit number is matter of public record.
That being said if youre going to quote me, I never said anything about presidential protection. "Border security" still falls under the "aid to illegals" comment since in this day and age, they are the same thing. Help any?
The deficit number is matter of public record.
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PO2 Floyd Fowler
1LT(P) (Join to see) - (You) forgot the lack there of didn't you? Yes, where does this money allocated for border security really go... If you can't account for where the money actually is then don't assume nothing... And how about you do a little research for you self... Unfortunately Sir, Your wonderful president is the most wasteful in history.
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SPC Bobby Coble
1LT(P) (Join to see) - With all due respect Sir, I disagree. Have you ever seen the expenses incurred when the president travels anywhere? Those costs are enormous, because everything they use, the ship with them. Food, Fuel, everything, then there is the housing of all the staff and security personal who have to stay somewhere other than their own homes. Not to mention the upheaval thrust upon the local area in the form of road closures, extra security, etc.
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I'm in Oklahoma. Drill was moved to end of month and from a MUTA 5 to a MUTA 4. We were scheduled to convoy for WTT and now it's a home station drill.
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SGT (Join to see)
SGT Jinger Jarrett, yep. Mine are 90 miles. I've watched cars sliding off the road on the way to drill. Pretty dangerous. Definitely not my idea of fun, either!
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But then again have a few units that are deploying so we have Fed money coming in.
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I know here in Minnesota their training has been pushed back to the end of the month. Nothing has been cancelled... Yet.
Now, for the Iowa NG our drills have also been pushed back to the end of the month. But, only those who HAVE to complete the SRP due to theirs expiring will be attending drill that month.
I am on Title 10 ADOS via Cadet Command. There were possibilities of my orders being extended until I left for BOLC. Um... Not so much anymore. The budget cuts are affecting everyone even those who aren't in NG units.
Thankfully, I got an earlier BOLC date. But, we will see if the budget cuts affect the NG BOLC slots/dates.
Ooofta. Such a mess. I am thankful for being on orders. I receive a check either way. But there are many SM out there that do not have the luxury as I do for being on orders. Nor does everyone have a job period. Some kids in my unit travel over 3hrs to drill. Due to budget cuts there will be no reimbursement for hotels. (Usually up to $50 a weekend) unless you get decent MPGs your car eats up your entire drill check.
Now, for the Iowa NG our drills have also been pushed back to the end of the month. But, only those who HAVE to complete the SRP due to theirs expiring will be attending drill that month.
I am on Title 10 ADOS via Cadet Command. There were possibilities of my orders being extended until I left for BOLC. Um... Not so much anymore. The budget cuts are affecting everyone even those who aren't in NG units.
Thankfully, I got an earlier BOLC date. But, we will see if the budget cuts affect the NG BOLC slots/dates.
Ooofta. Such a mess. I am thankful for being on orders. I receive a check either way. But there are many SM out there that do not have the luxury as I do for being on orders. Nor does everyone have a job period. Some kids in my unit travel over 3hrs to drill. Due to budget cuts there will be no reimbursement for hotels. (Usually up to $50 a weekend) unless you get decent MPGs your car eats up your entire drill check.
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I would say that these are trying times in the Guard. I have spent many night on a cot in the Armory.
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LTC Dr Richard Wasserman
Borrow Cots and MRE's. When I drilled in WA State; I drove 3 hours to drill and slept on a bunk bed in the Women's latrine. Ate at McDonalds. Drove a Pinto with great mileage.
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LTC Dr Richard Wasserman Luckily you didn't do that now. You would get a SHARP complaint for being in the women's latrine.
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Budget cuts hurts the entire U.S. Armed Forces, it causes low pay raises, inadequet funds for proper training, purchasing or fixing equipment, bonuses, TDY or PCS Move, lowering numbers for reenlistment, and promotions.
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PO1 Devon Hannans
Budget cuts impact the economy as a whole just at does the Military community. Strategist needs to revaluate and proposed a plan in the best interest of all. Loose or spend is not the answer, More so what is needed and how best to achieve the objectives.
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MSG Floyd Williams
PO1 Hannans....as long as the politicians greedy fat hands stay in the military budget, it will be a huge problem for a long time.
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PO1 Devon Hannans
MSG Williams: The problem is growing bigger, if it is not one thing it It is another. I agree with you on the issue, it impact Military budget which should be the focus. Our Military forces sacrifice a lot.................................Politicians disputes on Immigration and health care reform, what are we funding next and where is budget? Or what happen to the budget at everyone expense as taxpayers; billion of dollars inclusive settling disputes abroad.......
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MSG Floyd Williams
PO1 Devon Hannans....This will be an ongoing problem and unfortunately our military personnel and dependents will suffer for it.
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My units drill was postponed to the end of the month. Most california units were cancelled for sep drill. I just got back from SLC and luckily I was able to finish it. we'll see how this turns out. should be interesting.
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I have yet to see any issues in my state. We have been lucky as we have been getting federal missions.
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I am in Texas and our drill was moved to the end of the month with possibility of cancellation or curtailing (I assume that this would be a cancellation of 1 or more UTAs).
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They have cancelled drill for most units here. My drill has not been cancelled yet, probably because it is at the end of the month. Sept drill for us is a MUTA 6 and is a IWQ...
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140903/NEWS02/309030057/Some-states-cancel-Guard-training-month
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140903/NEWS02/309030057/Some-states-cancel-Guard-training-month
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Well SFC (Join to see) , I hope that they don't cancel your drill. I love IWQ! Mine is in October, so I should be just fine.
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i love IWQ also.... except for I might have to be the RSO. not to happy about that, but I still enjoy IWQ...
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I think it is asinine that the Guard is having to penny pinch and may not have money to pay for drills. First of all, its not like we don't know how much money we need to cover the drills for the year? But, really for all the the Guard does on the state and federal level it always seems like you all are getting the shaft. But lets wait until the next time there is an issue and how is going to get the phone call?
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My unit had to cancel/postpone our regular drill this weekend. This means cancelled ranges (which can't just easily be rescheduled) and training, and also since a lot of our unit members come from significant distances, just rescheduling the date is highly disruptive to achieving the mission. We'll of course adjust as best as we can, and realize that this is above even our State level, but this does seem like a very unfortunate situation.
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SFC Mark Merino
LTC Yinon Weiss Are their indoor ranges at the Guard Armories on the east coast? We had an indoor range using the .22 cal sub-cal adapter in Oregon. Talk about being emasculated.....
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LTC Yinon Weiss
SFC Mark Merino No indoor ranges that I'm aware of.. though there are times that it would be nice to have one for pistol shooting.
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Does anyone think this is the money which was redirected from the Military budget for the Beautiful Wall
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