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Posted on Mar 31, 2017
MG Peter Bosse
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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I salute the flag at all parade, and at our annual fair opening, can't say much for some of the other vets I know.
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MSgt Don Dobbs
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I agree 100% As a veteran we have earned the right to salute Old Glory indoors and out. Let the civilians who have never served place their hand over their heart I for one will salute as we all should. I even feel the pledge of allegiance also warrants a salute from those who served.
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MSgt John McGowan
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Was the reg changed very recently on saluting in civilian clothes? Seem like I saw something on that.
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PO2 Richard C.
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National Defense Authorization Act of 2008. The Act has been modified a little since then (what in the government isn't changed regularly), but not significantly and nothing that changed the authorization to salute in civvies.
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PO2 Richard C.
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SP5 Christine Conley - National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 allows the salute.
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SGT Bryan O'Reilly
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I wish more folks felt the same way sir. I believe we should strive to instill American pride in every American starting with the pledge and the constitution, and to teach our kids how important this beacon of freedom is to all free people. Not just America, but the free world. Why our own constitution and history (to include small arms safety,) are not a requisite part of our education is inexcusable. IMO. You are on the right track with regards to grass movement And I think every American citizen should be able to pass a citizenship test by the time they graduate High School. I believe that until we restore the draft and every American has 'skin-in-the-game' not necessarily in the military, but a period of public service. this will only worsen. We are provided with a blanket of freedom and security to us by the sacrifices of others. Yet there is no requirement for the citizen to know the document we have pledged our lives to defend. As a result, people begin to believe that what we have does not need defense. They need to be reminded what Old Glory stands for I promise to be more proactive in this dept, sir, Thanks for the reminder!
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TSgt Kenneth Hancock
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2nd on the salute!!
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SGT David Vernon
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Agree 100%
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CPT Phil Roberge
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Rules for Rendering Hand Salute of U.S. Flag
Law Now Allows Retirees and Vets to Salute Flag
Traditionally, members of the nation's veterans service organizations have rendered the hand-salute during the national anthem and at events involving the national flag only while wearing their organization’s official head-gear.

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2008 contained an amendment to allow un-uniformed servicemembers, military retirees, and veterans to render a hand salute during the hoisting, lowering, or passing of the U.S. flag.

A later amendment further authorized hand-salutes during the national anthem by veterans and out-of-uniform military personnel. This was included in the Defense Authorization Act of 2009, which President Bush signed on Oct. 14, 2008.

Here is the actual text from the law:

SEC. 595. MILITARY SALUTE FOR THE FLAG DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM
BY MEMBERS OF THE ARMED FORCES NOT IN
UNIFORM AND BY VETERANS.

Section 301(b)(1) of title 36, United States Code, is amended by
striking subparagraphs (A) through (C) and inserting the following new
subparagraphs:
``(A) individuals in uniform should give the
military salute at the first note of the anthem and
maintain that position until the last note;
``(B) members of the Armed Forces and veterans who
are present but not in uniform may render the military
salute in the manner provided for individuals in
uniform; and
``(C) all other persons present should face the flag
and stand at attention with their right hand over the
heart, and men not in uniform, if applicable, should
remove their headdress with their right hand and hold it
at the left shoulder, the hand being over the heart;


Note: Part (C) applies to those not in the military and non-veterans. The phrase "men not in uniform" refers to civil service uniforms like police, fire fighters, and letter carriers - non-veteran civil servants who might normally render a salute while in uniform.
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PO2 Skip Kirkwood
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One of the confounders is the difference in practices of the services. We (Navy), Marines, and Coast Guard uncover while indoors, and don't salute uncovered. We stand at attention, plain and simple (in the military mode). The civilian mode is the "hand over the heart" procedure. I guess as veterans we have the choice - but rendering the hand salute while uncovered just doesn't seem right to me.
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SSG Donald Gallaway
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Skip .. I salute.. Like I said before I earned the right .. And in my mind its a duty..
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SGT James Wisejr
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I agree, as a veteran I salute our flag at every event. I see it as privilege and a honor to do so !
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SGT Mike Ange
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Great post sir! I have already joined you and started a decade ago, always saluting the posting of the flag, etc, regardless of the occasion. I consider it both a privilege I have earned and an obligation that I gladly embrace. On more than one ocaission my hand salute has led to discussions with non-vets which provide an opportunity to educate on our core values. I will continue and hope to see many more join us.
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