Posted on Aug 24, 2017
There is Only One Measuring Stick to Veteran Status
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I find it very sad when there are some veterans who say that they don’t feel like veterans - that they don’t feel as if they earned the title because of a lack of certain experiences, awards, or schools. I would like to come forward right now and explain why this entire idea is absolute bullshit.
First, and possibly the most detrimental of these make-believe qualifiers to “be a veteran”, is the idea that the title is only bestowed upon someone that has endured the hardship of deployment or combat. I would like to say that this is not so. If this were truly a largely held belief, then there would be hundreds or thousands of men and women that have honorably worn a uniform and served that would not be considered veterans. Combat is its very own beast.
There are periods of our nation’s history where there was no war for decades, but we still had to maintain a readily available force in order to defend ourselves and deter our enemies. These men and women are just as much veterans as the gruff Marine who has done five tours to the sandbox.
It is not someone’s personal choice that prevents him or her from experiencing the horrors of combat (although for some, they have had the choice and power to stay away from the ordeal). This is dictated by higher commands, ordered to be done by certain units at certain times, and for the young Soldier, Marine, Seaman, Airman, or Coastie, it is pretty much a luck of the draw and out of their control. I don’t know of a single branch manager that would give a crap about some lowly private requesting a particular assignment. Sorry kid, but the needs of that 16-year Sergeant First Class are way higher on the list of priorities.
Second, the idea that a lack of awards or professional recognition somehow makes you less deserving of the title of veteran. I often hear this come from friends of mine that happen to bring awards up in conversation; it doesn’t happen often, but it has happened. Namely with a close friend of mine that served in the Army Reserves. Not only did he never deploy, which of course makes him not claim his veteran status, but he also has remarked that even if he does allow himself to be a veteran, that he is somehow lesser than those of us who have a little more color on our chests. I say that this is possibly even more ridiculous than the combat crap.
Awards are a great way to tell where someone has been, what they have done, and where they stand in a kind of hierarchy when it comes to peer groups. They are a resume that can be worn on your uniform and nothing more. I can tell how far someone is in their professional development as an NCO by seeing how many Noncommissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbons someone has. I can use the information gathered by seeing someone’s campaign medals and overseas service ribbons to see how many times they have been to combat and perhaps if they have served in Germany. I had a friend that had a star on his Airborne Wings; he had participated in one of the only combat jumps into Iraq in the past decade or so. None of these make someone more qualified to be a veteran though. These are just things they have done since they came in; stories that they can tell other veterans while they sit at the VFW and tell their war stories. That is all.
Lastly, “I’m not a real veteran if I didn’t do something ‘cool’.” This one is what leads those poor, underappreciated kids to don their old ACUs, go grab some badges from the local army surplus store, and parade around telling everyone that they were Ranger SEAL Snipers. Everyone is a veteran who served in the US military - not just special forces... it takes all types.
The military does not work without us all. A scout cannot use his M3A3 if the mechanics don’t fix it everytime it breaks. The radios in my truck don’t work properly when I try to call for fire if the commo guys aren’t there to make sure retrains works and that the fill is properly encoded. That combat outpost will go black on water, food, ammunition, and fuel if the 88Ms don’t come rolling through every few days with LogPac. Not everyone can be the super cool Delta Force Operator, but everyone can play a small role in a very large picture. The machine fails if one portion of it fails. Everyone needs to remember that.
If you raised your right hand and took the oath, laced up your boots and put on your uniform. If you did two years and ETS’d or retired with 20 plus. If you were injured or broken somehow and received a medical discharge. If your DD214 says anything other than “Dishonorable” in block 24, you, my friend, are a veteran. You are my brother, my friend, and my family, and I don’t care what any other moron has to say about it.
First, and possibly the most detrimental of these make-believe qualifiers to “be a veteran”, is the idea that the title is only bestowed upon someone that has endured the hardship of deployment or combat. I would like to say that this is not so. If this were truly a largely held belief, then there would be hundreds or thousands of men and women that have honorably worn a uniform and served that would not be considered veterans. Combat is its very own beast.
There are periods of our nation’s history where there was no war for decades, but we still had to maintain a readily available force in order to defend ourselves and deter our enemies. These men and women are just as much veterans as the gruff Marine who has done five tours to the sandbox.
It is not someone’s personal choice that prevents him or her from experiencing the horrors of combat (although for some, they have had the choice and power to stay away from the ordeal). This is dictated by higher commands, ordered to be done by certain units at certain times, and for the young Soldier, Marine, Seaman, Airman, or Coastie, it is pretty much a luck of the draw and out of their control. I don’t know of a single branch manager that would give a crap about some lowly private requesting a particular assignment. Sorry kid, but the needs of that 16-year Sergeant First Class are way higher on the list of priorities.
Second, the idea that a lack of awards or professional recognition somehow makes you less deserving of the title of veteran. I often hear this come from friends of mine that happen to bring awards up in conversation; it doesn’t happen often, but it has happened. Namely with a close friend of mine that served in the Army Reserves. Not only did he never deploy, which of course makes him not claim his veteran status, but he also has remarked that even if he does allow himself to be a veteran, that he is somehow lesser than those of us who have a little more color on our chests. I say that this is possibly even more ridiculous than the combat crap.
Awards are a great way to tell where someone has been, what they have done, and where they stand in a kind of hierarchy when it comes to peer groups. They are a resume that can be worn on your uniform and nothing more. I can tell how far someone is in their professional development as an NCO by seeing how many Noncommissioned Officer Professional Development Ribbons someone has. I can use the information gathered by seeing someone’s campaign medals and overseas service ribbons to see how many times they have been to combat and perhaps if they have served in Germany. I had a friend that had a star on his Airborne Wings; he had participated in one of the only combat jumps into Iraq in the past decade or so. None of these make someone more qualified to be a veteran though. These are just things they have done since they came in; stories that they can tell other veterans while they sit at the VFW and tell their war stories. That is all.
Lastly, “I’m not a real veteran if I didn’t do something ‘cool’.” This one is what leads those poor, underappreciated kids to don their old ACUs, go grab some badges from the local army surplus store, and parade around telling everyone that they were Ranger SEAL Snipers. Everyone is a veteran who served in the US military - not just special forces... it takes all types.
The military does not work without us all. A scout cannot use his M3A3 if the mechanics don’t fix it everytime it breaks. The radios in my truck don’t work properly when I try to call for fire if the commo guys aren’t there to make sure retrains works and that the fill is properly encoded. That combat outpost will go black on water, food, ammunition, and fuel if the 88Ms don’t come rolling through every few days with LogPac. Not everyone can be the super cool Delta Force Operator, but everyone can play a small role in a very large picture. The machine fails if one portion of it fails. Everyone needs to remember that.
If you raised your right hand and took the oath, laced up your boots and put on your uniform. If you did two years and ETS’d or retired with 20 plus. If you were injured or broken somehow and received a medical discharge. If your DD214 says anything other than “Dishonorable” in block 24, you, my friend, are a veteran. You are my brother, my friend, and my family, and I don’t care what any other moron has to say about it.
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OK so I am a Veteran. Yes I have have been to Combat. Which would make a me a Combat Veteran. Now with that said that doesn't change anything then the fact I have been to combat. Their are so many people that would of gone to combat if they could of. They earn the right to be called a Veteran when they finished Basic and AIT and been to unit it for the first six months. Now that is my opinion that you should have to finish at least six month in your first unit. Just because you go to basic and you don't make it yes you get a DD214. Now I feel that is wrong yes you tried but did you really? Within the first 6months of being at your first unit you can be put out on failure to adapt. Which still show you didn't try to me. But a Veteran and a Combat Veteran still are the same and should be shown the same respect.
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What being a Veteran means to me. I am so thankful and grateful!
I have written to so many Congressmen and Senators all regarding issues facing Veterans. I am not selfish I am 100% Total and Permanent so I could just say forget it and no longer be concerned but I am not made up like that. I want what's right and fair for all Veterans.
I am thankful for my time in the military and the friends I made I am grateful for the Veterans Service Officer an Army Retired SFC that help me with my claims and get awarded 100% based on my injuries that occurred on active duty so I feel indebted to Veterans causes for the rest of my life it's in my heart.
I am Thankful that at 50 years old I was able to retire from a job as a Mid level Manager after 22 years with full medical benefits for me and my wife. Despite being rated 100% I can still work. Then was able to get another Mid level Management job with another government agency. The reason why there is so much thanks given because both of the jobs I got because I was a Veteran. So I am one to say I have much pride as Veteran and I care for Veteran causes. I often go on the base to the PX , Commissary, Gym and Library near where I live so I can see people in uniform and be around a military environment. It may sound of corny but that's the type of guy I am.
Peace!
I have written to so many Congressmen and Senators all regarding issues facing Veterans. I am not selfish I am 100% Total and Permanent so I could just say forget it and no longer be concerned but I am not made up like that. I want what's right and fair for all Veterans.
I am thankful for my time in the military and the friends I made I am grateful for the Veterans Service Officer an Army Retired SFC that help me with my claims and get awarded 100% based on my injuries that occurred on active duty so I feel indebted to Veterans causes for the rest of my life it's in my heart.
I am Thankful that at 50 years old I was able to retire from a job as a Mid level Manager after 22 years with full medical benefits for me and my wife. Despite being rated 100% I can still work. Then was able to get another Mid level Management job with another government agency. The reason why there is so much thanks given because both of the jobs I got because I was a Veteran. So I am one to say I have much pride as Veteran and I care for Veteran causes. I often go on the base to the PX , Commissary, Gym and Library near where I live so I can see people in uniform and be around a military environment. It may sound of corny but that's the type of guy I am.
Peace!
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Veterans are not the rare breed they were 10 years ago. I remember hearing my recruiter tell me that less than 1% of eligible Americans would ever serve. That's no longer the case, and I am glad to call these new service members my brothers and sisters.
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I understand it, because you feel cheated out getting to do what you've trained so hard for. Marines job is to kill or be killed.
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As an 11B in the early 80's with 2/16 1st ID I never saw actual combat. At the time the Soviet Union was the enemy. We trained to fight them every day. In Reforger 84 we were expected to slow down an enemy outnumbering us 10 to 1 until larger forces could be brought on line. We were told by our NCO's that we would surely die doing this but only after we took 10 Communists before that. Accepting that you would die and still being willing to continue your job makes you a Veteran. I give great Props to those who were under fire in recent Wars and know the damage both physical/mental/emotional that happens due to combat but ANY COMBAT ARMS SOLDIER/MARINE, willing to knowingly lay down their life for their Buddy's first and Nation next is a Veteran in my eyes. Once a Soldier Always a Soldier.
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I gave 13 yrs to the US Army from 1982 till 1995 from '90 to '95 was in the reserve WE ALL ARE VETERANS ALL THE WAY
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If you left honorably you have my respect. No matter if you were an 11 series or a 98 series or anybody in between.
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I know there was a time that I felt that way and maybe I still do. I had the thought in the back of my head that because I did not participate In the Iraq War that somehow I had failed my brothers and sisters in arms. That I was less of a soldier than I once was. I was Honorably discharged after my term in service and was diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes 3 months later. When the call came for me to return to service I was denied the ability to serve anymore because of my condition. It hit me pretty hard and I still have these thoughts from time to time. Especially with me being an 11B Infantryman.
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Nicely written article. As a former 11B in the 101st Airborne (Air Assault), I can remember plenty of dick measuring, even prior to OIF and OEF regarding related to scare badges, and chest candy. It seems to only have gotten worse when you add combat tour counts to the equation.
If I may add one other caveat to your last paragraph it would be this. the title veteran needs to be bestowed on ALL members of the armed services who have faithfully and honorably served this country. By this, I'm specifically referring to the National Guard. My career started in the National Guard and later transitioned to active duty Army after high school and AIT. My wife, however, chose to make her six-year enlistment with the Wisconsin Army National Guard. As a result, when my wife was hired to work for the Department of Veterans' Affairs, her service wasn't recognized. I'm not talking about her time in service not counting towards seniority, I'm talking about the Federal Government not even recognizing her as a veteran of the U.S. Army because she "didn't serve in a combat zone for six months or longer or served on active duty for more than 12 months for purposes other than training". Last time I checked, it said "U.S. Army" on the left breast tape of her BDUs the same as it did mine.
If I may add one other caveat to your last paragraph it would be this. the title veteran needs to be bestowed on ALL members of the armed services who have faithfully and honorably served this country. By this, I'm specifically referring to the National Guard. My career started in the National Guard and later transitioned to active duty Army after high school and AIT. My wife, however, chose to make her six-year enlistment with the Wisconsin Army National Guard. As a result, when my wife was hired to work for the Department of Veterans' Affairs, her service wasn't recognized. I'm not talking about her time in service not counting towards seniority, I'm talking about the Federal Government not even recognizing her as a veteran of the U.S. Army because she "didn't serve in a combat zone for six months or longer or served on active duty for more than 12 months for purposes other than training". Last time I checked, it said "U.S. Army" on the left breast tape of her BDUs the same as it did mine.
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